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After having the dealership repack the wheel bearings on our 5th wheel, I noticed the trailer brakes are not working as they should. I plan to call the dealer but wanted to pick everyone's brain first. I did not change any settings on my brake controller in the truck.
They probably backed the adjusters off to remove the drums and didn't re adjust them, or the got grease on the shoes or magnets.
Thanks. I'll see what they say when I call them....
EDIT: 2nd thought, I think I'll just jack up each wheel and check the adjusters instead of the hassle of getting it back to the dealer! Appreciate the info.
EDIT: 2nd thought, I think I'll just jack up each wheel and check the adjusters instead of the hassle of getting it back to the dealer! Appreciate the info.[/QUOTE]
Probably a better choice. Will most likely find the problem and know it was remedied correctly!
I went ahead and made an appointment to get it back into the dealer. I didn't want to try to fix something that they caused. Will let you know what happens next....
Good decision imo. It might be the adjusters, it might be grease inside one of the brakes. If you can, and you have an IR temp gun, take temps of wheels after you tow. This often signals problem wheels or brakes / bearings. I carry a IR gun always, it's my wifes job at stops to hit all wheels and report anything odd, or truck too.
Good idea. Good to use on a fridge as well to see where the temps are....
Just remember the side in the sun always is a couple degrees hotter than the shady side when towing. Let us know what the dealer says or does, we all like to learn Good luck.
Update: Got the 5th wheel last Friday. Dealer said that they tightened them some but said that they were close to start and said that they didn't back them off when they repacked the bearings. When I towed it home, I could tell they were better, but not like they were before I went to the dealer. I'm not happy with how they are and need to investigate more. I've decided to adjust them myself. These are Dexter axles and I'm hearing they are self adjusting. However, when I YouTube them, I'm seeing videos on how to tighten them up by jacking up the wheel and access the drum from the back. Anyone know of any self adjustment on these?
Dexter has both self-adjusting and manual adjusting brake options. Both have the brake spoon access holes in the backing plate, so I don't really know how to tell which you have without pulling a drum. I much prefer the manual adjust personally.
One thing I know that often gets neglected on trailer brakes is the wear surface on the drum for the magnet. In my experience drums wear out on that area, which is called the armature, than they do on the actual radial brake shoe area. I would take a close look at the armature area and magnet faces. As well as the obvious grease on the shoes potential.
Dexter has both self-adjusting and manual adjusting brake options. Both have the brake spoon access holes in the backing plate, so I don't really know how to tell which you have without pulling a drum. I much prefer the manual adjust personally.
One thing I know that often gets neglected on trailer brakes is the wear surface on the drum for the magnet. In my experience drums wear out on that area, which is called the armature, than they do on the actual radial brake shoe area. I would take a close look at the armature area and magnet faces. As well as the obvious grease on the shoes potential.
Very good info. I kind of remember this being an issue on a 5th wheel we had 10 years ago. Appreciate the refresher!
Shoot some brake parts cleaner through the back side of the brake assembly or through the gap between the drum and the backing plate. If that helps, then you have grease on the shoes.
One of the ways that I check that all of my trailer brakes are working is to use the manual trailer brake controller to slow the vehicle. After doing this a couple times, immediately pull into a parking lot and use a laser temp gun to check the temp of all the trailer brake drums. They all should be close to each other. If one or more drums are cooler than the others, then it is not working as well. It might have grease on the shoes, may need adjusting, or could have a wiring issue. Over the years, I have seen all of these issues. Grease can get in there if a grease seal goes bad. Or I have had the wires break right where they go into the magnet (looks ok, but no current). Good luck.
FWIW...
Jacking up the tire and activating the brake controller is not a good test if the brake shoes are covered with grease. I ran this test myself yesterday. Almost no actual braking on the road but the brake will easily stop the drum when the tire is off the ground. The shoes had enough grease on them that they needed to be replaced.