Payload much lower than I thought!
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Surprising how low the SD 250’s are for payload. My 96 will legally carry more payload than my 06..
As far as scales in Canada, I’ve been told directly by them (MTO) yrs ago (while being weighed and inspected commercially, just chit chatting the topic came up) - they couldn’t care less about mom and pop in their dually pickup tuck with 40’ fifth wheel RV in tow.
But if they suspect you are commercial (for hire), they are very interested. So if you’re hauling cars, tractors, dozers, equipment, what ever.., even just for personal farm use etc etc, and look like you are possibly commercial, you very well may get pulled in / over and weighed. Even for family / friend, and he’s paying $20 for beer money - you are for hire. Some of them travel with portable scales in their vehicles. And some like to check the colour of your fuel too while they are at it...
FYI WPG, my 06, with cap on the back, half tank fuel, and me in it weighs 7,960#. I just ball park it at 8k#, full fuel. I would suspect yours is not much different, assuming yours is 4x4. My cap /topper is probably 250#, ish.
I can’t remember what Manitoba does, but I believe it is the same as Ontario - your weight depends on your registered weight, not the door/VIN tag. So if you’re not registered for the weight, you’ve got a problem when pulled over - they want their fees for your registration. And if you’ve hit the regular drivers license limits, now you’re driving without a license.. some food for thought.
I asked once at the MTO (Ministry of Transport Ontario) while doing the annual registrations about what the pickup trucks should be or could registered for weight wise (commercial), in Ontario which was good Canada wide. They said it doesn’t matter, what ever weight I needed. I asked, how high? Don’t remember why, but in the conversation I asked - could I in theory, register for 80,000 lbs, they said - yes, no problem. How you get the truck to do it is your problem I suppose. Just as long as they get their fees for it… I left the conversation at that, before they decided to put a flag on our pickup plates.
That’s combined, all up weights by the way.
I was also registered commercial in Michigan and Wisconsin, and iirc, it was pretty much all the same program. As long as they get their fees, everyone was happy. Personal, RV’s, etc, no one ever asked.
Long story short, if you’re not commercial in a pickup with an RV, no one seems to care.
As far as scales in Canada, I’ve been told directly by them (MTO) yrs ago (while being weighed and inspected commercially, just chit chatting the topic came up) - they couldn’t care less about mom and pop in their dually pickup tuck with 40’ fifth wheel RV in tow.
But if they suspect you are commercial (for hire), they are very interested. So if you’re hauling cars, tractors, dozers, equipment, what ever.., even just for personal farm use etc etc, and look like you are possibly commercial, you very well may get pulled in / over and weighed. Even for family / friend, and he’s paying $20 for beer money - you are for hire. Some of them travel with portable scales in their vehicles. And some like to check the colour of your fuel too while they are at it...
FYI WPG, my 06, with cap on the back, half tank fuel, and me in it weighs 7,960#. I just ball park it at 8k#, full fuel. I would suspect yours is not much different, assuming yours is 4x4. My cap /topper is probably 250#, ish.
I can’t remember what Manitoba does, but I believe it is the same as Ontario - your weight depends on your registered weight, not the door/VIN tag. So if you’re not registered for the weight, you’ve got a problem when pulled over - they want their fees for your registration. And if you’ve hit the regular drivers license limits, now you’re driving without a license.. some food for thought.
I asked once at the MTO (Ministry of Transport Ontario) while doing the annual registrations about what the pickup trucks should be or could registered for weight wise (commercial), in Ontario which was good Canada wide. They said it doesn’t matter, what ever weight I needed. I asked, how high? Don’t remember why, but in the conversation I asked - could I in theory, register for 80,000 lbs, they said - yes, no problem. How you get the truck to do it is your problem I suppose. Just as long as they get their fees for it… I left the conversation at that, before they decided to put a flag on our pickup plates.
That’s combined, all up weights by the way.
I was also registered commercial in Michigan and Wisconsin, and iirc, it was pretty much all the same program. As long as they get their fees, everyone was happy. Personal, RV’s, etc, no one ever asked.
Long story short, if you’re not commercial in a pickup with an RV, no one seems to care.
I have a regular class 5 licence which is good to tow up to 10,000lbs, but not sure what would be the outcome if my rig weighed in at say 10,500lbs by motor vehicle enforcement so I'll have to call and inquire about that. Truck is insured for pleasure(A5)and on the registration it says "RRF 2966kg" whatever that means so yeah I'll have to call tomorrow and get my rig weighed in so I know what I'm sitting at.
With the suspension lift parts, bedliner paint job, 08-10 mirrors, 2016 steering box, BD adjustable track bar, 2022 centre console and 285/75r18 Duratrac's plus offset alloy wheels I'm probably sitting around 8500lbs just on the truck alone so yeah I need to get this sorted out asap.
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Really good chance your truck is 10,000 GVWR. Pretty much all 05+ F250's are. I think anything less would have been a special order for registration purposes (I've heard of 9,900# versions).
My truck is basically the same as yours with the camper package. Front GAWR 5600; rear GAWR 6100. I would mostly be worried about non exceed the axle ratings. The F350 SRW is the same drive-train, frame, brakes, with an extra leaf and it gets an 11,500 GVWR.
The weights from the charts figure a base model truck without any options, etc. The yellow sticker will be the actual rating (I believe they factory weigh the trucks). I believe it normally already includes a 200# driver and a full tank of fuel.
My XLT 4x4 is really close to yours with a 2337 payload.
My friend got a unicorn. 2019 F350 extended cab, short bed with the 6.2 gasser. Almost 4000lb payload!
My truck is basically the same as yours with the camper package. Front GAWR 5600; rear GAWR 6100. I would mostly be worried about non exceed the axle ratings. The F350 SRW is the same drive-train, frame, brakes, with an extra leaf and it gets an 11,500 GVWR.
The weights from the charts figure a base model truck without any options, etc. The yellow sticker will be the actual rating (I believe they factory weigh the trucks). I believe it normally already includes a 200# driver and a full tank of fuel.
My XLT 4x4 is really close to yours with a 2337 payload.
My friend got a unicorn. 2019 F350 extended cab, short bed with the 6.2 gasser. Almost 4000lb payload!
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...verweight.html
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Anyone can get weighed though. I live in the nc/tn/va corner and have been randomly weighed. VA is known for it.
Before 2015 or so when you got a tag it was by default a 4k lb tag. NC allowed 500lb over. BUT you couldn't get a ticket if you were empty even though your half ton was technically over weight. So if you had a bag of trash you could be ticketed. Back around that time we had a new DMV lady who pulled every truck she saw with a mower/ atv/ trash bag and either ticketed or parked them until someone came to get the load with more tag (or after dark when the owner came and got it). I saw and heard hundreds of people deal with her. Me and 3 trucks of buddies were going atv riding and got pulled. I'm running farm tags for 20k lb but I was lazy and pulled my trailer to haul my atv. She parked 3 of them. I had to load my raptor and a buddies warrior on my pickup and let another guy pull my trailer with the other two quad before she would shut up. With a trailer you were allowed 9k regardless of 4-5- or 6k lb normal tags. All of that said, she never looked nor cared about the door placard and payload. I hauled a ton of feed on my half ton and even a v5 mighty max. I had the tag for it but it was well over my door placard payload.
Now the minimum is either 5 or 6k lb tags but it's still lower than the trucks weigh. But that lady moved on and I haven't heard of anyone weighed since in NC.
In TN or at least in my end of TN..... it's pretty much mad max style. Next to no traffic laws are enforced. Lol
Before 2015 or so when you got a tag it was by default a 4k lb tag. NC allowed 500lb over. BUT you couldn't get a ticket if you were empty even though your half ton was technically over weight. So if you had a bag of trash you could be ticketed. Back around that time we had a new DMV lady who pulled every truck she saw with a mower/ atv/ trash bag and either ticketed or parked them until someone came to get the load with more tag (or after dark when the owner came and got it). I saw and heard hundreds of people deal with her. Me and 3 trucks of buddies were going atv riding and got pulled. I'm running farm tags for 20k lb but I was lazy and pulled my trailer to haul my atv. She parked 3 of them. I had to load my raptor and a buddies warrior on my pickup and let another guy pull my trailer with the other two quad before she would shut up. With a trailer you were allowed 9k regardless of 4-5- or 6k lb normal tags. All of that said, she never looked nor cared about the door placard and payload. I hauled a ton of feed on my half ton and even a v5 mighty max. I had the tag for it but it was well over my door placard payload.
Now the minimum is either 5 or 6k lb tags but it's still lower than the trucks weigh. But that lady moved on and I haven't heard of anyone weighed since in NC.
In TN or at least in my end of TN..... it's pretty much mad max style. Next to no traffic laws are enforced. Lol
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