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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 12:06 PM
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Everyone has their own likes and preferences so there’s really no wrong choice. My truck’s a 2023 that I bought new off the lot in January 2024. I honestly don’t recall what or if it came with any factory navigation. (XLT Premium) It’s SYNC 4, B&O and does have map/GPS.
For simplicity and an annual cost of zero I’m good with Waze on wireless CarPlay.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 01:59 PM
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Apple and Waze do not offer RV towing options that you get with built in nav. You can opt for RV Life subscription if you need trailer navigation. While Google and Waze are fine for the peons not towing anything, those who use the trucks to tow trailers, the built in is a better option.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 02:10 PM
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I looked into RV Towing, but even that is subscription based. I think it was $70 per year. For me, since I am not camping, I would rather (if I had to) pay for the factory NAV as opposed to a standalone App.

 
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 08:50 AM
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My wife bought us a Garmin with RV directions in it. You put in all your dimensions and it creates the route for you. No subscriptions, just the upfront charge. It is another thing on your dashboard. That part stinks. You can toggle from the RV settings to just the truck when you are not towing. The thing I love about it is you can get a wireless camera for it. The camera is designed for a back up camera, but I mounted it on the inside of my bed rail so I can hitch my goose ball up without getting out of the truck.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
Apple and Waze do not offer RV towing options that you get with built in nav. You can opt for RV Life subscription if you need trailer navigation. While Google and Waze are fine for the peons not towing anything, those who use the trucks to tow trailers, the built in is a better option.
I tow often. In fact I’m 1300 miles from home right now, having towed all the way here and will on the return trip tomorrow. I tow 5 days a week for the 6 months I operate a seasonal business.
But it’s not an RV so I guess I’m just another “peon”. Why do people feel the need to look down their noses at folks who don’t do as they do?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Havok72
My wife bought us a Garmin with RV directions in it. You put in all your dimensions and it creates the route for you. No subscriptions, just the upfront charge. It is another thing on your dashboard. That part stinks. You can toggle from the RV settings to just the truck when you are not towing. The thing I love about it is you can get a wireless camera for it. The camera is designed for a back up camera, but I mounted it on the inside of my bed rail so I can hitch my goose ball up without getting out of the truck.
What model is it?

 
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 09:39 AM
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Google maps is far superior

updates itself vs the annual map flash drive for ford nav

gives you your actual speed

gives you Leo and other roadside notices


connect your iPhone to the trucks usb port and select car play, search for your route on iPhone Google maps and it will switch over to your vehicle display.

 
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 11:07 AM
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I just renewed mine for another year today.

Unfortunately, I need to use an app on my phone for vehicle mileage submission for work. If I use it and Google maps at the same time, my phone locks up. This causes me to lose the map (usually when it's really needed) and the mileage tracking (car program frowns on manual entry and it's difficult to get the proper mileage).
 
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
I tow often. In fact I’m 1300 miles from home right now, having towed all the way here and will on the return trip tomorrow. I tow 5 days a week for the 6 months I operate a seasonal business.
But it’s not an RV so I guess I’m just another “peon”. Why do people feel the need to look down their noses at folks who don’t do as they do?
I like irking the easily offended types.

Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Google maps is far superior

updates itself vs the annual map flash drive for ford nav

gives you your actual speed

gives you Leo and other roadside notices


connect your iPhone to the trucks usb port and select car play, search for your route on iPhone Google maps and it will switch over to your vehicle display.
You can't input trailer length and height though and can get routed into a situation you can't get out of. Thats the entire point of the built in nav, you can do that and not get routed where you don't belong.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2025 | 01:13 PM
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Doesn't the Ford Nav in the newer models self update?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by drew999999
Doesn't the Ford Nav in the newer models self update?
Yes, they do.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by drew999999
Other vehicles with built in navigation that I own/owned require constant map updates to keep current with new roads and routes. The latest update for my wife's car was over $130.
My 2009 Mercedes CLS550 ($80k 15 years ago) required $500 to update the Nav. And that was a physical CD they sent in the mail... I did it once, when it was about 5 years old.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jmeo
I looked into RV Towing, but even that is subscription based.
Frankly, anything that's good should cost money, JMO.

Originally Posted by jmeo
I would rather (if I had to) pay for the factory NAV as opposed to a standalone App
Can't argue with you there.

Still not sure what I'll do. I understand that the factory nav, when you've put in trailer specs, gives you warnings on EVERY overpass height, even if it's higher than what you put in... That's super annoying. It's supposed to be routing you only on acceptable routes!
 
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 02:36 PM
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Thanks for the reply, however I live in an area where there’s no traffic information on the Ford NAV. I just drove to and from Tampa FL on I-10 and I-75. Ford was about 20% correct on the slowdowns that are always near Ocala and Tampa on the highways. Ford had no information about police, crashes, hazards, etc. provided by Waze and Google for free via CarPlay. Ford did have better details about what’s available at the next few exits.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 02:49 PM
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I specifically opted not to get the nav package due to the subscription costs. Instead I got a Garmin RV795 so I can put in my trailer info and I have lifetime maps. Waze is fine when you have cell service, but I sometimes go where there is no service and the GPS is always there, except in large tunnels. I used a bulletpoint mounting system for my GPS, dash cam and RV rear camera (not pictured).


 
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