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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 10:08 AM
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$h|tty Job!

Replaced the ball valve and base seal on our Aqua Magic style II toilet. The last time we performed this task was in 2019. No matter how much cleaning, scrubbing and seal conditioning I tried, the top seal was not holding water for more than a couple hours.

It took me and my wife less than a hour to remove the toilet, disassemble, clean, reassemble and install.

Job well done and ready for another 5+ years of adventures.

FYI: We used Thetford 34120 seal kit.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 11:43 AM
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I need to do the same crappy job myself. 😩

 
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 11:47 AM
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better you than me, real world that's a job i leave to the plumber, the way i look at it. it's money well spent
 
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 03:12 PM
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better you than me, real world that's a job i leave to the plumber, the way i look at it. it's money well spent
Ya, except many plumbers won't work on RVs & getting a RV tech scheduled these days is usually months out. Not to mention you kind of need to be able to fix your own gear when you are on the road. So spending the time wrenching on your own gear builds the knowledge & experience so you can stay on the trip if there are issues. Trying to get somebody to wrench on a true RV is super scarce & expensive, one of the reasons I stick with a normal truck & a trailer. Not hard to find somebody to wrench on a normal truck.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 04:24 PM
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omg do i ever hear you, 3 years ago we broke down between dawson city yukon and fairbanks, try getting help up there,
 
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 11:03 PM
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Make sure you have a new/extra actuator valve on your trailer too. Mine started leaking just days into a 3-week vacation that required shutting the water off and also using lots of towels when on. Also, I had a lav sink faucet that started to leak on our first of the year camping trip a few weeks ago. It wasn't leaking when I tested all of it after waking it up from winters nap. It was leaking from under the single handle and running onto the countertop. It was raining pretty good also when my wife called me into the bathroom to say water was all over the sink....I was just hoping it wasn't the roof, etc.
Once again we had to leave the water unless using it.
When I got home I ordered a new lav faucet and kitchen sink faucet that is NOT all plastic that must have cracked during winter from a small amount of water still trapped up in the plastic guts.
I also replaced the cheap plastic lav bowl with a stainless steel one that now matches the faucet, and I put shut-off stops on both the hot and cold water supplies to the toilet, lav and kitchen sink. Those cabinets are tight, I had to feel my way to remove and install new fixtures, as I couldn't fit even my shoulders into that small area. .
 
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sous
Replaced the ball valve and base seal on our Aqua Magic style II toilet. The last time we performed this task was in 2019. No matter how much cleaning, scrubbing and seal conditioning I tried, the top seal was not holding water for more than a couple hours.

It took me and my wife less than a hour to remove the toilet, disassemble, clean, reassemble and install.

Job well done and ready for another 5+ years of adventures.

FYI: We used Thetford 34120 seal kit.
There is a grease designed for lubricating that seal. Have you used that? I have a couple tubes of it that I bought for the prior camper but never used it. I need to apply some in the new camper as proactive maintenance.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 12:17 PM
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It helps but unfortunately this dirty tasks needs to be done.



 
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There is a grease designed for lubricating that seal. Have you used that? I have a couple tubes of it that I bought for the prior camper but never used it. I need to apply some in the new camper as proactive maintenance.
We tried that years ago and it did not work well for us. We now use the product in the image below. The seal we replaced did a good job for 6 years of heavy use during camping season, which for us is February to October for the most part.


 
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
It helps but unfortunately this dirty tasks needs to be done.
I am not mad at the rubber seal. It cost us 1 hour and less than $3.50 annually over the past 6 years of heavy use. Just like a home, it requires maintenance.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 05:31 PM
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I am not mad at the rubber seal. It cost us 1 hour and less than $3.50 annually over the past 6 years of heavy use. Just like a home, it requires maintenance.
This April will be 9 years of our full time boondocking lifestyle. It's averaging 3 years to redo the ball and seal. Why the toilet is out I replace the floor seal and redo the foot pedal mechanism.

It mostly the hard water in the west that does the ball seal in or at least in our case.

 
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
It mostly the hard water in the west that does the ball seal in or at least in our case.
Are you sure it isn't what you've been eating?

When I sold it, my prior camper was 18 years old. I don't know if the prior owner had to change the seal, but I know I never did and the toilet held water.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 07:20 PM
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I can nether confirm nor deny that I might just be hard on the plumbing.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2025 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
We tried that years ago and it did not work well for us. We now use the product in the image below. The seal we replaced did a good job for 6 years of heavy use during camping season, which for us is February to October for the most part.

I should probably mix a little of this with the RV antifreeze. Over winter the seal leaks down, then in spring it leaks for a few days of use then is fine rest of the year.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2025 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
I should probably mix a little of this with the RV antifreeze. Over winter the seal leaks down, then in spring it leaks for a few days of use then is fine rest of the year.
The instructions on the back of the bottle say to do exactly that.

I put the RV antifreeze in the traps but not in the toilet where it accumulated above the seal.
 
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