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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Why does 150 = 1/2-ton?

Anybody know how the F-100/150/250/350 nomenclature came to describe load ratings in Ford trucks? Why 100 for 1/4-ton, 150 for 1/2-ton, etc. Why were Chevy's & GMC's K-10, K-20, K-30, etc. for the same ratings and then changed to 1500, 2500, 3500, etc. Dodge also follows this numbering system.

So, why does 150 = 10 = 1500 for 1/2 ton? What does it all mean?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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They are just name badges. The actual capacity (1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, etc) is based on what the truck can carry in the bed.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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Ford !

F100 is a smaller gvwr truck with lighter load *suspension*.

F150 is called the heavy 1/2 ton with a higher GVWR

As far as the basis for these Ident numbers.... only a Ford or GM or industry Tech knows why .
 
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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The GVWR on a F150 is waaayyy more than 1/2 ton though.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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A 2003 F150 7700 series can pack 2500 lbs in the bed so its tough to call that a half ton.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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I thought a 7700 series was a light futy 250? maybe I am dumb oh well.....but even then 2500 is still more than 3/4 ton.....

I have also pondered this smae quistion, but I know I have loaded down my ranger with more than 1500 pounds of crap before.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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I think it sorta made sense at one point
F100- half ton 1000 lbs
then to get around some smog regs supposedly, they added the F150, which was a little tougher than the F100, then the F150 sold more, so a few years later they discontinued the F100

but I still can't figure out why the 3/4 ton was an F250
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 03:22 AM
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AFAIK drunkenmonk is correct. The numbers changed due to emissions laws.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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As for the Chevy, I believe the K-series determined mainly trim level and the C-series determined weight.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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I thought the C was 2 wheel drive, and the K was 4 wheel drive
am I mistaken ?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 05:00 PM
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The C and K have nothing to do with weight. The C-series is a 4x2 model and the K-series is a 4x4 model. The C/K series stopped in '99.

Same goes for the old Dodges 6?-'93. The D-series was their 4x2 models and the W-series was their 4x4 models.

The numbers are what determines weight rating. I.E.: Ford F-250, Chevy C-20, Dodge W-250, for older models.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Torque1st
AFAIK drunkenmonk is correct. The numbers changed due to emissions laws.
give the monk a drank and he makes since to me

Chevy 1/2-ton capacity trucks, including pickups, the Blazer / Jimmy, and Suburbans, are model 10, so a C-10 Suburban is a 2WD, 1/2 ton. Using this system, a 4WD Blazer is a "K-10" except it has a "K-5" on the badge....................I think

'course, i'm a ford man
 

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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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The F150 was just fine until someone like Dick Gephardt decided to tax the recreational users of trucks more than the "commerical user" so any truck under a certain weight have a different tax rate. I think it was 4,000 lbs.

The domestic manufacturers then raised the weight of the F100 and now called it the F150.

End result: no addtional taxes raised, no emisions or gas saved. Brilliant.

Now lets have a luxury tax. Oh thats right, been there done that. Put 50,000 people out of work and raised about 700,000 dollars of tax revenue. This one was repealed due to being unpopular. Jobs didn't come back though.

Mark
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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Meant to say everyone was happy with F100.

Dick Gephardt was the one beind the luxury tax. You notice he doesn't talk much about that one now.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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theres a little edit button under each post, if you discover you need to fix little stuff.

I mess up and use it all the time
 
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