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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 07:38 PM
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Engine bearing shims

So I'm waiting out the cold today and watching the snow flutter, sitting around window shopping on ebay, and I run into this display of engine bearing shims. Is there someone here old enough or experienced enough in building ancient engines to teach me how this works? This must be some kind of "fix" that avoids machining and purchase of under/oversize bearing inserts, or with babbit type? There are shims for main bearings and rod bearings in the packages. Curious.

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1920S-1950S VINTAGE FEDERAL-MOGUL ENGINE BEARNG SHIM DISPLAY CABINET & NOS PARTS - Picture 1 of 9

1920S-1950S VINTAGE FEDERAL-MOGUL ENGINE BEARNG SHIM DISPLAY CABINET & NOS PARTS - Picture 2 of 9

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1920S-1950S VINTAGE FEDERAL-MOGUL ENGINE BEARNG SHIM DISPLAY CABINET & NOS PARTS - Picture 5 of 9
 
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The Stovebolt Chevys came with shims in the rods between the rod and caps. Whenever the engine got 40-50k miles, you would drop the pan and remove a shim or two. These engines had poured rods and caps so this was the only way to adjust the bearing clearance. When the engine was rebuilt with new poured bearings, the shims would be used again. The Chevy is the only one I am familiar with but other manufacturers used the same concept.
Edit: A little story: Sometime in the mid1950s, I bought a 1941 Chevy that had been on blocks during WW11. It had somewhere in the 40K miles shown so I decided to drop the pan and adjust the bearings. I was so pleased to only be able to remove one shim per rod side.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 08:20 PM
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Thanks, Ray, that makes perfect sense.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 08:32 PM
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I bought a 1962 ford truck with a 292 back in 1988 and it was supposed to be rebuilt. Well 900 miles later it had a main bearing knock. Dropped the mains and there was aluminum foil between the main caps and the bearings. All the mains were heavily scored but The # 5 main journal was scored .029"

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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 09:27 PM
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Ray, I think the pictured set is a different kind of shim, that goes behind the bearing insert. See here: https://deckwartaperedshims.com/main...oduct-info.php
Hardly an ideal solution but if times are tight, you do what you need to.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2025 | 09:47 PM
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So, Wayne, how much are they asking for the set?
 
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So, Wayne, how much are they asking for the set?
He wants 3 and a half plus shipping. I included the link to the ad in the first post, above.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 02:12 AM
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Pretty cool find. I use them on my hit and miss engines. I've saved quite a few shims over the years.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Ray, I think the pictured set is a different kind of shim, that goes behind the bearing insert. See here: https://deckwartaperedshims.com/main...oduct-info.php
Hardly an ideal solution but if times are tight, you do what you need to.
Ross, look at the picture shown to the left of the Mogul logo in the first pictures posted. These shims were factory-installed and fit between the rod and the bearing cap. Service shims were used by engine rebuilders when the rods were remanufactured with new babbitt or whatever may have been used to renew the rod. I never knew the kind of shim you link to was acceptable or made commercially. Of course, we all have heard horror stories like Big Win mentioned. Working in a junkyard as a teenager, I saw quite a few of these repairs. Parts unavailability during WW11 made many folks innovative. Some worked and some were disasters.
 
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That picture was too obvious, I guess! You're right.
 
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