2008-2010 As Built Data
2008-2010 As Built Data
I'm posting the As Built Data for 2008-2010 trucks, some of this is the old now deleted spreadsheet, I have spent a long time finding new values and options for these trucks.
This is an ongoing work in progress, there will be typos and formatting issues which I will try to keep up on as new things are discovered.
2008-2010 As Built Data
A few common questions:
Can PATS be disabled?
No, PATS is hard coded into the PCM and IPC, the only way to remove it is to reprogram them with a PATS disabled firmware.
Can DRL be switch to other lights?
At this time I have found no values that will change the DRL source, I don't think this was ever planned for by Ford.
Is there a front turn signal bulb outage setting?
Not that I can find, I don't think Ford ever planned for this.
I have a base model XL truck, manual everything, can I add power door locks and windows? Do I have to change the SJB?
Power windows can be added without changing the SJB as the SJB only supplies power for the windows. The power door locks will require a different SJB as the hardware is missing for door locks.
NOTE: All my testing has been on only a few different hardware and software versions of modules, some setting may not work for everyone, if a setting doesn't work please let me know and I will look into it.
This is an ongoing work in progress, there will be typos and formatting issues which I will try to keep up on as new things are discovered.
2008-2010 As Built Data
A few common questions:
Can PATS be disabled?
No, PATS is hard coded into the PCM and IPC, the only way to remove it is to reprogram them with a PATS disabled firmware.
Can DRL be switch to other lights?
At this time I have found no values that will change the DRL source, I don't think this was ever planned for by Ford.
Is there a front turn signal bulb outage setting?
Not that I can find, I don't think Ford ever planned for this.
I have a base model XL truck, manual everything, can I add power door locks and windows? Do I have to change the SJB?
Power windows can be added without changing the SJB as the SJB only supplies power for the windows. The power door locks will require a different SJB as the hardware is missing for door locks.
NOTE: All my testing has been on only a few different hardware and software versions of modules, some setting may not work for everyone, if a setting doesn't work please let me know and I will look into it.
Update Log:
2/2/25
- SJB can have 8 remotes stored in it, I'm not sure how you program remotes 5-8 but copying remotes in positions 1-4 to position 5-8 will allow you to program 4 more remotes using the stock learn function (unlock then ignition on 8 times to program remotes)
- SJB Enable/Disable panic button on remote(s) *newer SJB versions*
- SJB Panic button two press activation *newer SJB versions*
- SJB Drivers Door Key Cylinder Switch equipped
- SJB Two stage unlock or Single stage unlock
2/4/25
- SJB Panic button enable/disable *older SJB versions*
- SJB Trunk Release enable *older SJB versions*
- SJB Rear left & right stop lamp output enable
- SJB Fog lamp enable, this setting actually shows the fog lamp switch and output on in the live data as where the old one did not.
- General formatting updated
2/8/25
- SJB Double lock horn feedback
- SJB Lock turn signal flash feedback
2/9/25
- SJB Interior lights on with Entry/Exit
2/18/25
- RCM multiple entries
2/2/25
- SJB can have 8 remotes stored in it, I'm not sure how you program remotes 5-8 but copying remotes in positions 1-4 to position 5-8 will allow you to program 4 more remotes using the stock learn function (unlock then ignition on 8 times to program remotes)
- SJB Enable/Disable panic button on remote(s) *newer SJB versions*
- SJB Panic button two press activation *newer SJB versions*
- SJB Drivers Door Key Cylinder Switch equipped
- SJB Two stage unlock or Single stage unlock
2/4/25
- SJB Panic button enable/disable *older SJB versions*
- SJB Trunk Release enable *older SJB versions*
- SJB Rear left & right stop lamp output enable
- SJB Fog lamp enable, this setting actually shows the fog lamp switch and output on in the live data as where the old one did not.
- General formatting updated
2/8/25
- SJB Double lock horn feedback
- SJB Lock turn signal flash feedback
2/9/25
- SJB Interior lights on with Entry/Exit
2/18/25
- RCM multiple entries
I think the reason everyone 'forgets' about them is because of the 6.4. With proper mods or left 100% stock it could be a reliable engine, but if you threw ANY tune at it without supporting mods they just wanted to self-destruct. Gave a lot of people a bad taste, just like the 6.0 did.
But lasting a normal service life is just the minimum expectation, the 6.4 really, really struggles in the reliability department for many reasons (silly K16 injection pump, block crankshaft line bores are not inline, crappy designed Ford piston with a stress riser that crack, not enough oiling to the valvetrain causing rocker arm wear, DPF regens thinning the oil, DPF regens putting a lot heat and washing down cylinders 7&8 so the ring lands on those pistons get snatched off, EGR hot coolant return causing cavitation damage to the water pump / front cover, improper amount sealant used on bedplate interface so the always leak oil, cams go flat from the fuel diluted oil, large amount of cylinder blowby which is returned to the intake causing the entire intake to be covered in oil and all the EGR soot sticks to that oil, gaskets for the injection pump and valve covers have wires going through them that short out which required major repair, often cab off repairs, which is for just about everything ,,,,, but other than that they're pretty good.)
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Also several of these modules like the SJB are used in other cars that open up extra possibilities. For example I want to swap in 2012 superduty window motors for the auto up/down option, they also support the global window feature, that’s one wire to hookup to the SJB and have that option now that was never was even known about before(and it does work as I’ve tested it already). Or the easy entry/exit setting that the cluster doesn’t have the menu option to enabled/disable it for the DSM, but can be enabled in the DSM itself.
Im currently running a SJB from a 2012 Taurus, I had to reprogram the “ECU Configuration/Base Configuration” firmware file to the truck version and gained a few extra options that my old 2008 SJB never had. Small things like this that open up more possibilities for these trucks that no one ever tried before and can benefit others is why I’m digging through these.
A reliable 6.4 is the exception, not the rule. They pretty much sucked. If deleted and tuned conservatively (like a stock tune just with EGR/ DPF regen), they could last a normal service life.
But lasting a normal service life is just the minimum expectation, the 6.4 really, really struggles in the reliability department for many reasons (silly K16 injection pump, block crankshaft line bores are not inline, crappy designed Ford piston with a stress riser that crack, not enough oiling to the valvetrain causing rocker arm wear, DPF regens thinning the oil, DPF regens putting a lot heat and washing down cylinders 7&8 so the ring lands on those pistons get snatched off, EGR hot coolant return causing cavitation damage to the water pump / front cover, improper amount sealant used on bedplate interface so the always leak oil, cams go flat from the fuel diluted oil, large amount of cylinder blowby which is returned to the intake causing the entire intake to be covered in oil and all the EGR soot sticks to that oil, gaskets for the injection pump and valve covers have wires going through them that short out which required major repair, often cab off repairs, which is for just about everything ,,,,, but other than that they're pretty good.)
...
But lasting a normal service life is just the minimum expectation, the 6.4 really, really struggles in the reliability department for many reasons (silly K16 injection pump, block crankshaft line bores are not inline, crappy designed Ford piston with a stress riser that crack, not enough oiling to the valvetrain causing rocker arm wear, DPF regens thinning the oil, DPF regens putting a lot heat and washing down cylinders 7&8 so the ring lands on those pistons get snatched off, EGR hot coolant return causing cavitation damage to the water pump / front cover, improper amount sealant used on bedplate interface so the always leak oil, cams go flat from the fuel diluted oil, large amount of cylinder blowby which is returned to the intake causing the entire intake to be covered in oil and all the EGR soot sticks to that oil, gaskets for the injection pump and valve covers have wires going through them that short out which required major repair, often cab off repairs, which is for just about everything ,,,,, but other than that they're pretty good.)
...
By that same token, though, his '08 6.4 F450 has something like 300k+ on it with no engine issues other than a radiator that cracked 3 times before 200k, but seems to have been good since. Truck is completely stock and starting to rust out the bed thanks to winter salt, but he still drives it daily at least 60 miles/day (he is fortunate enough to still be working at the same place for 30 years), hauls a 12.5 foot truck camper every fall for about 4 weeks, and pulls their 42 foot fifth wheel all over during the summer.
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After hearing from the OP, this thread will live as a sticky at the top of the 1999-2016 forum for a while, until we can coordinate a permanent placement in context with other FORScan related resources, as well as in context with the sub-forum that would most benefit by this specific information, which is the 6.4L PSD subforum.
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Still slowly working at decoding things, I'll keep updating the second post on new finds.
Also going to post this here if anyone want to really nerd out on raw CAN bus messages.
2008-2010 CAN Bus Decoding
Also going to post this here if anyone want to really nerd out on raw CAN bus messages.
2008-2010 CAN Bus Decoding
2010 Tire Size Adjustment
Still slowly working at decoding things, I'll keep updating the second post on new finds.
Also going to post this here if anyone want to really nerd out on raw CAN bus messages.
2008-2010 CAN Bus Decoding
Also going to post this here if anyone want to really nerd out on raw CAN bus messages.
2008-2010 CAN Bus Decoding
You'll need to either purchase a one year license of forscan or get the 2 month free trial to program this.
2010 Tire Size Adjustment
Thank you very much for the prompt response. I have been successful in making the adjustment on newer models but I haven't yet hooked up to my 2010. Thanks again for the info!
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