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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:56 AM
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Thank you, I just signed up to be contacted when they become available. I have to stop by the dealer tonight, I'll aggravate them about one too
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by F250 Platzilla
User friendliness of an on-line manual sux. Even a downloaded PDF isn't great, IMHO. I hate it when I think I have found info using a PDF search, but scrolling up or down I realize it's for a diesel or DRW. I get it, the permutation of configurations is astronomical, which logically complicates covering everything in the owner's manual. BUT, it's 2025. Somehow, my whole truck got built with the right components. I don't see why Ford doesn't customize manuals according to the build spec used to make it, seems like it would be easy. Start with a blank document with all the generic stuff, and if the build sheet say's a 7.3, add just 7.3 specific information. Geez...
There's an owners manual??
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 09:45 AM
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I just went to helminc, it showed in stock, and I clicked all the way to add my info. Maybe that's where they say, "not really!"

Would this be something they compiled, or would it look like a real Ford manual like the olden days?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by F250 Platzilla
I just went to helminc, it showed in stock, and I clicked all the way to add my info. Maybe that's where they say, "not really!"

Would this be something they compiled, or would it look like a real Ford manual like the olden days?
You have a 2025. That one looks to be in stock. The 2024 manual is currently out of stock.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 10:24 AM
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Thanks Spitfire1940, I didn't correlate the year. I just ordered one for my 2025. When I get it, I'm going to go through it with a black marker and redact anything not related to my truck to make it more/quicker readable.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 12:31 PM
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Thanks guys!
I just ordered one for my 2025 that is on order.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 12:42 PM
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Update: Just got the 2025 manual. It's exactly page per page the same as the pdf. 7.25x5.25x1.5. Nice piece.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2025 | 11:44 AM
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The 2024 owners manuals are in stock at Helm. Just ordered one.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2025 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ShotgunZ71
Trail turn assist is an option on the Tremor package only.
I have turn assist on my 350 it’s called a steering wheel
 
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 08:10 AM
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I have turn assist on my 350 it’s called a steering wheel
Nice one! Needed the chuckle.

Like everyone here, I am also a dinosaur and like to read a book. The HTML version is a PIA, though probably stays up to date. The PDF is closest to paper. I downloaded it to my iPad before it disappears down the road. Seeing that I have all this time waiting for a truck I am going through and creating a cheat sheet of key topics and relative page numbers. As to model specific info? If you have ever bought a new $$$ RV it is the same, even worse treatment. But you would think going electronic they could fix that, no?

So now I have to spend $58 of my own money to purchase a manual that probably costs Ford $5.95 to print in quantity. Well, I guess we are expecting too much where we are all spending only $70-100K for a truck.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 09:01 AM
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Wow a solution looking for a problem. Do you wonder how to use your silver spoon as well. Old owners manuals used to tell you how to set valve lash and replace points. Now they tell you not to drink the battery acid. I’ve never once needed to read a stupid useless owners manual. It’s a truck put it in drive and go. If you have to read a manual to drive maybe you should be driving. We have homeless single mothers with starving children and you’re wanting an easier to read owners manual. Wow I’m floored.
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you just spent 100k on a junker truck they know they can rip you off they already did once they know they can do it again. $58 for an owners manual to tell you not to drink the battery acid. Fool you once shame on you fool me twice …….
if you can’t afford the manual you can’t afford fuel
Who pissed in your Cheerios? How about you keep your keyboard worrier mouth shut. What a complete ******* statement. You don't have to like what others talk about, do to their trucks, or how they spend THEIR money on them, but you should keep your absolutely useless replies to your self.




Originally Posted by DQuerze
Nice one! Needed the chuckle.

Like everyone here, I am also a dinosaur and like to read a book. The HTML version is a PIA, though probably stays up to date. The PDF is closest to paper. I downloaded it to my iPad before it disappears down the road. Seeing that I have all this time waiting for a truck I am going through and creating a cheat sheet of key topics and relative page numbers. As to model specific info? If you have ever bought a new $$$ RV it is the same, even worse treatment. But you would think going electronic they could fix that, no?

So now I have to spend $58 of my own money to purchase a manual that probably costs Ford $5.95 to print in quantity. Well, I guess we are expecting too much where we are all spending only $70-100K for a truck.
I'm with you. I do like having the PDF saved to my phone for access when I am not with my truck, but I prefer using the paper manual. I find it much easier to access fuse locations or capacities. Not even that it's easier, it's just a preferred method to me. This is why I purchased the paper version.

Kills me how people who can't keep their narcissistic opinions to themselves as opposed to doing what their parents (should have) taught them. You know, if you have nothing good to say, shut the hell up.


 
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DQuerze
Nice one! Needed the chuckle.

Like everyone here, I am also a dinosaur and like to read a book. The HTML version is a PIA, though probably stays up to date. The PDF is closest to paper. I downloaded it to my iPad before it disappears down the road. Seeing that I have all this time waiting for a truck I am going through and creating a cheat sheet of key topics and relative page numbers. As to model specific info? If you have ever bought a new $$$ RV it is the same, even worse treatment. But you would think going electronic they could fix that, no?

So now I have to spend $58 of my own money to purchase a manual that probably costs Ford $5.95 to print in quantity. Well, I guess we are expecting too much where we are all spending only $70-100K for a truck.
I do prefer a paper owners manual, I too usually read or look over it when getting a new vehicle. It would be nice to narrow them down to a diesel version and a gas version.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 11:03 AM
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I ordered a copy today as well... we spent almost half an hour trying to figure out the BRAKE light on the dash. Turns out it was the parking brake was engaged and we had to figure out how to disengage it. It's a PITA to look up anything on the screen.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 11:31 AM
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How about that mirror heat switch? OM says it has one, but diagrams do not show one, turns out its for chassis cabs without rear window defrost. Ford needs to get their schiznit together on these manuals.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2025 | 04:21 PM
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How about that mirror heat switch? OM says it has one, but diagrams do not show one, turns out its for chassis cabs without rear window defrost. Ford needs to get their schiznit together on these manuals.
I thought if equipped with heated mirrors they usually come on when needed . I’ve had them on other trucks and didn’t remember turning them on unless they were tied to defrost settings.
 
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