pto for a winch
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OP profile says F150. Mazda transmission doesn't have a PTO port.
Either way, a PTO driven winch is a PITA, and is a two man operation in most cases.
Plus you have to run a driveshaft around all the stuff in the way.
Even if you were planning to use a hydraulic pump to run the winch, it's still a nuisance compared to an electric.
PTO winch?
PITA.
Either way, a PTO driven winch is a PITA, and is a two man operation in most cases.
Plus you have to run a driveshaft around all the stuff in the way.
Even if you were planning to use a hydraulic pump to run the winch, it's still a nuisance compared to an electric.
PTO winch?
PITA.
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From: Carnation, Wah
I have looked into this quite a bit, and frankly, a PTO is an expensive, difficult proposition these days,
as the trucks are simply too old.
First, you have to have a ZF5 or a transfer case with a standard PTO port. (some early 1356's have the port)
The M5OD does not, and the 1356 that usually comes on that transmission does not.
Then you have to find the PTO with the correct mating gears. Long out of production, it's ePay and scrounging.
The parts are kicking around, but hard to decipher and relatively complicated to assemble
(you need a particular gear, and one of many shafts, and that's just for a Chelsea 100 series)
The ZF5 has 2 gearsets, so you have to find the gear for that particular set.
(I have not found the 1356 gear)
Oh, and the Chelsea documentation's long out of print- while there are pdfs online,
they don't have exactly all the info you need.
Go electric, if you want a winch. Seriously.
t
wants a generator
as the trucks are simply too old.
First, you have to have a ZF5 or a transfer case with a standard PTO port. (some early 1356's have the port)
The M5OD does not, and the 1356 that usually comes on that transmission does not.
Then you have to find the PTO with the correct mating gears. Long out of production, it's ePay and scrounging.
The parts are kicking around, but hard to decipher and relatively complicated to assemble
(you need a particular gear, and one of many shafts, and that's just for a Chelsea 100 series)
The ZF5 has 2 gearsets, so you have to find the gear for that particular set.
(I have not found the 1356 gear)
Oh, and the Chelsea documentation's long out of print- while there are pdfs online,
they don't have exactly all the info you need.
Go electric, if you want a winch. Seriously.
t
wants a generator
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From: Near Salt Lake City
Right, those old PTO's were mainly on the old iron case transmissions and transfer cases
Some of the newer stuff like PTO's in vans running carpet cleaning equipment actually come off the front of the motor accessory drive
Some of the newer stuff like PTO's in vans running carpet cleaning equipment actually come off the front of the motor accessory drive
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I would not be opposed to some sort of generator that replaces the smog pump. Do you have any idea how to get more juice to an electric winch? Mine is an old 8000 pounder, came with the truck. I feel it doesn't get all the power it needs.
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Try a bigger battery, or a second battery. The winch is pulling from the battery. The alternator can't put out enough ooomph to run a winch--only to keep the battery charged over longer periods.
Of course, if you have an older truck with a small output alternator, you can upgrade that too, but the main draw pulls from the battery when operating a winch.
Of course, if you have an older truck with a small output alternator, you can upgrade that too, but the main draw pulls from the battery when operating a winch.
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Quality heavy copper cable (as I recall I used 2 gauge) with good lugs for connections. I use an Andersen power pole connector so I can disconnect the winch, rated for the current. Don't run the winch continuously. Full load they pull hundreds of amps: that produces a lot of heat and battery drain. Keep a good battery, biggest you can fit. If you winch often, dual batteries as suggested is a good idea. 130 amp alternator upgrade is helpful too.
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