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Old Jan 17, 2025 | 07:09 PM
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E4OD shifting back and forth

About 2 weeks ago I was driving and I heard my truck rev up. There was no shudder or hard shift and the the rpms jumped up from 1400 to 2k then back down in a matter of seconds. It jumps up and down like this no matter what. Down hill, uphill, or flat ground it does this around 50mph. Also sometimes around 2k to 3k rpm it feels like there's no power almost like the converter is not locking all the way. 93 f-150 5.8l E4OD. Any ideas would be appreciated and yes I have checked the transmission fluid
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 08:09 AM
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My 94 did that a few times, I had the MLPS or neutral safety switch replaced, it's been fine since.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 09:01 AM
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Could be a failing MLPS or TPS or ….? Are there any KOEO fault codes? Whatever you do don’t start throwing parts at it. You must do some diagnostic testing first.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Could be a failing MLPS or TPS or ….? Are there any KOEO fault codes? Whatever you do don’t start throwing parts at it. You must do some diagnostic testing first.
The check engine light is not on but I've been told that doesn't matter sometimes. It's been really wet lately too could water damage these parts?
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 10:03 AM
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Correct. The light does not need to be of for there to be codes in the computer.


You can also use a paper clip to jump those two terminals and count the check engine light flashes.

I suppose so but how did water get to the TPS on top of the engine and into the “weather pack” style connector on the side of the transmission?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JSontchi
The check engine light is not on but I've been told that doesn't matter sometimes. It's been really wet lately too could water damage these parts?
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Yes, and this is when mine acts up.
There is an old style and new style MLPS, some re-pinning is involved with the new style.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
Yes, and this is when mine acts up.
There is an old style and new style MLPS, some re-pinning is involved with the new style.
Not terrible but not fun either. I did that on the ‘94. There isn’t a whole lot of room or slack to work with.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 12:23 PM
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Not terrible but not fun either. I did that on the ‘94. There isn’t a whole lot of room or slack to work with.
You did it the same wrong way I first did then haha. The next time I had to do this, on my other truck, I unhooked the connector on the solenoid pack, and this allows you to bring the whole wiring harness down, way down on the drivers side, so you have all the room in the world to work on re-pinning the mlps/range sensor connector. I shook my head in remembrance in how much I suffered doing it the first time, not just bringing the whole harness down. It was like a whole different job, all for the couple extra mins it takes. It took like 1/10 the time overall.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 12:28 PM
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Worst part is that didn’t change anything. Eventually I got a code for the TPS. I guess that fixed the problem. I sold the truck a few months later.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 12:33 PM
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Thanks for all the tips. I'll see what codes I can get and go from there. Hopefully nothing too major
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 01:22 PM
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Thanks for all the tips. I'll see what codes I can get and go from there. Hopefully nothing too major
Check the solenoid pack plug.

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I wrote that for the IDI diesel section, but same general info. This is the main communication connector between the pcm and trans, so if the wires short out, and or have corroded pins, your trans will act exactly as you describe. You should get associated codes however...........but this is good preventive maintenance; something good to do every 5 years or so anyway.

If anyone reads that with a '95+ truck, just remember if you need a repair harness connector, you need the '95-'97 plug.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2025 | 02:30 PM
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I've seen this happen when the TRS (also called the MLPS - located on the driver's side of the transmission) starts to fail. It won't set a code for this type of failure, so I recommend replacing the TRS with one of the new style parts.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 08:26 PM
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So after replacing my check engine light bulb because for some reason the whole socket was gone I ran the KOER test and it threw 411,412,121,538, and 632 codes. The KOEO threw a 112 but as well as 654,321,233,254,263,712,673,462. 112 is the only one I could find in the code list and the rest seem not to exist. I have all these codes written twice so surely I didn't count them wrong twice in a row. With what I have it looks to me I have a bad throttle position sensor but what else could it possibly be?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 09:00 PM
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The TPS could be at least part of your problem, it would be worth getting a code reader to confirm all those codes.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2025 | 03:42 AM
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Ignore the KOER codes since you are supposed to perform the engine off test and repair any fault codes from that test before moving on to the engine running test. You have more than the TPS to worry about with all those codes. Were those KOEO codes all active, a combination of active and stored or all stored?
 
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