https://www.autoweek.com/news/a63351...0Non%20Openers
RAM Finally changed to one diesel engine for 2500 and 3500 trucks, now all get 430 HP and 1075 TQ.
In my opinion the bigger news is that they also now get a new 8-speed ZF transmission behind the Diesel.
I think these two updates will be a game changer, Ford may be in trouble!

 

Why would Ford be in trouble. The 6.7L matches those numbers and already comes with a 10 speed tranny.


RAMs ride nice but not sure about body and interior component longevity...

 

So, now both model lines will fall apart faster than usual? J/K

 

My 2015 RAM 2500 went over 614K miles and was still going fine when I sold it, its main issue after that many miles was worn out suspension bushings, no body or interior issues at all.
But, I had grown pretty tired of the engine power and trans not being smooth, even though it was still strong, two main reasons for going with a new Ford was the power and trans in a 3/4 ton truck, now RAM has both, and it DOESN"T HAVE A CP4 HIGH PRESSURE PUMP!!!
RAM tried the CP4 and found out real quick that it was trouble and changed back.
And, the RAM interior is very good.
Too bad RAM didn't make these changes about 4 years ago, I probably would have gone with another one.

 

Cummins is going back to a improved CP4.2 pump for the 2025 MY. The other big question is did Cummins fix their problematic hydraulic lifters? Also they are going back to a gray iron block since the CGI block had some serious warpage problems with users towing heavy.

MY '18 was the last good year for the Cummins. The jury is still out for 2025

 

The Cummins always made better low end power than the Powerstroke and now it has the gears to go with it. Rest of the Ram truck is pretty nice and I think better than Ford. I have three 2024 Ram trucks and looking forward to adding more now that the 8spd is available in chassis cab configuration.

 

The 6.7 Cummins also now doesn't have a CP3 style pump anymore either. So who knows if that will be any improvement or not.

 

I loved my 2016 RAM 2500 with the factory rear air suspension. My biggest reason for moving to Ford was that RAM still does not offer the 4500 in a pickup (or a 3500 with a wide track front axle like Ford used to do). I really wanted the better maneuverability in the tight campgrounds that date back to the earlier 1940s-60s that dominate in the Midwest/eastern US. After 7-8 years in NE Ohio, that RAM had no major mechanical issues (I had a Synergy drag link eat itself up, but that's not RAM's fault unless you consider the stupid nut weld recall is the reason I swapped parts in the first place), no real body rust to speak of, and the Laramie interior still looked great.

 

Before I bought my Super Duty, I just knew I wanted a Ram. No idea why, but it’s just what I knew. Keep in mind, this Super Duty was my first truck…

We bought our (small, 6000 lb) camper in 2018 and pulled it with a Pathfinder for a few years. Needless to say, it went over every rating except axle ratings and tire ratings… and those were close! And while it did fine on flat roads, hills slowed it down and revved it up!

In 2020 we took a family trip up to Wyoming with the camper and I rented a truck. I picked up a 2020 F250 with the 6.7 from Enterprise Truck company. It was an XLT with only 52 miles on it. I brought it back 10 days later with over 4000 miles on it pulling our camper.

A few months later we rented another truck for a 2000 mile trip to FL, again, with our camper. This time we got a 2020 Ram Big Horn and the diesel engine. This one had 20k miles on it…

After both trips we were grateful that we rented them first and actually put substantial miles on them with our camper. I realized I much preferred the Ford over the Ram. I liked the 10 speed, I liked that the back seat was split, I loved the big, flat rear floor, especially when the rear seats were up. And I also felt like the overall interior quality was better on the Ford… granted both of these trucks are lower trims, but these were the one I was looking at anyway.

3 years later I am still happy with my decision to go with the Super Duty over the Ram. If I could change anything, it would have been to go with the longer wheel length instead of the shorter one. Otherwise, I love this truck and hope we have it a long time!

 

Bosch cp5 is what I read for the model

 

I am/have been a Cummins/Ram guy and I still own four of them. My take on the new Ram diesel is that it's about time! The Ram has been hamstrung by the standard output Cummins and the 68RFE for far too long and even the HO and Aisin lagged significantly behind in performance since 2020 ......BUT while I applaud the changes for Ram, they have only partially caught up with Ford; the 6.7 still has significantly more power, even the "old" 6.7 475/1,050 and the 10R140 still has two more gears. The 2025 Ram CTD will still lag behind the Super Duty with the standard output Powerstroke and the Ford HO opens up the gap even further. I predict the GM with 470hp/975ft lbs and a 10 speed will still edge out the Ram in towing performance but it should be close.

OTOH, 430hp/1,075 ft. lbs isn't exactly weak and as long as the ZF8 proves reliable and stout enough behind the Cummins, it should be a big improvement vs. earlier Ram diesels.

Dave

 

I don't see where the CTD is lagging behind the PSD, it has 1075 TQ, and torque is where the pulling power is.
Heck, I had been looking at the Dmax, and am sure that even 975 TQ would be satisfactory, that is where the 10 speed would be a help.
The 10R140 behind the PSD really is overkill, 8 speeds would/will be more than enough in the RAM.
And, ZF doesn't do anything halfway, I expect the 8AF1075 trans will be just as smooth and robust as the 8HP in the hellcat's.

 

Did anyone catch if they added a 7th injector or are they rolling with the exhaust stroke method still?

 

Maybe 35 to 60% off msrp will move trucks with lot rot. Seen several utubers talking about this will likely happen.

 

???
What does this have to do with the new RAM's???