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Old Dec 9, 2024 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ehewson
I hear ya. I just picked up my 77 f250 like 2 months ago... and my to-do list is growing and shifting. lol.
😆 yep my dry erase board is filling up fast!! I keep a high level board and then a subsystem board with all the parts I need to order or received.

-fuel system hoses
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-primary take fill/vent hoses (need 2 order)
-aux tank fill/vent hoses (received/shed)
-carb rebuild kit from mikes carb (received)
 
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Old Dec 9, 2024 | 09:02 PM
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If it starts and runs great why OH the carb??
 
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Originally Posted by atitagain4
I have a couple engines over 400hp in different classic vehicles so I wanted to try the famous 300. If I don’t like it, I have a 70’s 302 roller engine with stock bore in the garage I can do a simple 275-300hp build for cheap.
Saw this at a recent car show.





 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rubiranch
If it starts and runs great why OH the carb??
When I was changing the valve cover gasket I noticed the base of the carb was loose, the screws aren’t accessible from the bottom with the carb installed. I got a kit mainly for the base/flange gasket. I figured if I am going to take it off I should just go through it.
it’s low on the priority list because it does start/run just fine.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 75over77 F100
Saw this at a recent car show.

I like that!! I have a Cummins and always say, 6 in a row ready to tow lol.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by atitagain4
thanks for the nice comment.

so I’ve watch a few YouTube builds going from stock 1barrel to offy/4 barrel, EFI manifolds and they turn out impressive numbers.

agree offy is hard to swallow but cheaper than I can build up a cheap factory 302 roller. What’s super tempting is my buddy has a 460 for CHEAP!! He just rebuilt it. His builds motors as a side job.

since you’ve done a few, I assume it’s significant change?
Yes it is, the stock 1bbl dies well, but adding 3 more holes, especially when you mash it, it surprises many! My 79 F250 4x I sold to my BIL, 300/Offy w/390/EFI man/NP435/4.10's and 33's I drove it from Kalifornia to MO, averaged 18+ mpg for 1800 miles had a few times when I opened it up to play with others, had one guy pull into gas station with me wondering what it had and he was like..wtf?!! Now granted it's not 351C/460 power, but it does well Gearing, as with any engine, is the key, getting in the sweet spot in rpm's. The 300's are inherently smooth, the one I had in my 66 F250 my machinist balanced it for me, butter smooth and I ran it up to 4500+ a couple times, you could feel it drop off, but it really pulled up to 44-4500
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 11:42 AM
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When I had my trick c6, built by the guy who used to build them for the baja 1000 racers, I used to spin my 300 over 5k routinely. With my engine, I changed from a 390 gas hog. I kept the hp and doubled the mpg. Now, with the ZF5, I am content with long, strong pulls in each gear. I do admit that on occasion I miss my tricked out c6.
After having had 3 300's, I would give you this advise: Choose a cam that accentuates the natural characteristics of the 300, and that is bottom end torque. The Isky 256 is perfect. Get over-size valves, 194 int, and 1.60 exh, and you will be amazed. Couple that with free flowing exhaust, MSD ignition through a Duraspark2 distributor recurved, with a 4v intake and nice 4v carb, and you'll have the hp of a stock 360 with much better mpg. Good luck.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by atitagain4
When I was changing the valve cover gasket I noticed the base of the carb was loose, the screws aren’t accessible from the bottom with the carb installed. I got a kit mainly for the base/flange gasket. I figured if I am going to take it off I should just go through it.
it’s low on the priority list because it does start/run just fine.
Those screws coming loose is a huge problem with those old Carter YF carburetors.
We used to replace them with a larger screw.
I wish I could remember what size, you might want to google or YouTube it.
 
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Originally Posted by Pickupmanx2
Yes it is, the stock 1bbl dies well, but adding 3 more holes, especially when you mash it, it surprises many! My 79 F250 4x I sold to my BIL, 300/Offy w/390/EFI man/NP435/4.10's and 33's I drove it from Kalifornia to MO, averaged 18+ mpg for 1800 miles had a few times when I opened it up to play with others, had one guy pull into gas station with me wondering what it had and he was like..wtf?!! Now granted it's not 351C/460 power, but it does well Gearing, as with any engine, is the key, getting in the sweet spot in rpm's. The 300's are inherently smooth, the one I had in my 66 F250 my machinist balanced it for me, butter smooth and I ran it up to 4500+ a couple times, you could feel it drop off, but it really pulled up to 44-4500
thats promising!! Sing it runs and drives now, I am doing all the fluids, rubber seals/bushings, clutch etc. once all mechanical system are 100% sorted I’ll dive in the power side. It has 3.00 gearing which will be great for MPG and long trips but not as fun with the right pedal.
 
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Originally Posted by Rubiranch
Those screws coming loose is a huge problem with those old Carter YF carburetors.
We used to replace them with a larger screw.
I wish I could remember what size, you might want to google or YouTube it.
thanks for the info. I might use some blue loctite or small dab of epoxy or maybe find the correct size lock/star washer.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by F-250 restorer
When I had my trick c6, built by the guy who used to build them for the baja 1000 racers, I used to spin my 300 over 5k routinely. With my engine, I changed from a 390 gas hog. I kept the hp and doubled the mpg. Now, with the ZF5, I am content with long, strong pulls in each gear. I do admit that on occasion I miss my tricked out c6.
After having had 3 300's, I would give you this advise: Choose a cam that accentuates the natural characteristics of the 300, and that is bottom end torque. The Isky 256 is perfect. Get over-size valves, 194 int, and 1.60 exh, and you will be amazed. Couple that with free flowing exhaust, MSD ignition through a Duraspark2 distributor recurved, with a 4v intake and nice 4v carb, and you'll have the hp of a stock 360 with much better mpg. Good luck.
Thanks, I’ll have to research the cam specs. I agree on the correct cam for the engine characteristics. I put a smaller torque type cam in the engine I build for my son 302. 206/216 .480 @112 LSA.
 
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Originally Posted by atitagain4
It has 3.00 gearing which will be great for MPG and long trips but not as fun with the right pedal.
OMGoodness. That 300 will be powerless with 3.0 gears. 3.73 would be ideal. Wait a minute. A farm truck with 3.0 rears? Beep. That doesn't sound right. There's no way that truck used to haul/tow with 3.0 gears. Oh, wait, you did say it needed a clutch. And now you know why. For best mpg and power, as I read in a Ford publication, go with 3.73 gears.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by F-250 restorer
OMGoodness. That 300 will be powerless with 3.0 gears. 3.73 would be ideal. Wait a minute. A farm truck with 3.0 rears? Beep. That doesn't sound right. There's no way that truck used to haul/tow with 3.0 gears. Oh, wait, you did say it needed a clutch. And now you know why. For best mpg and power, as I read in a Ford publication, go with 3.73 gears.
yep, I don’t think the rear has ever been drained/filled. The data tag is perfect with a big ole 3 00 on it. The “ranch” it was on for 15-20 yrs was about 200 acres. (Where I got it) I think it was just the “bosses” tool/parts/hay/welder hauler. The guy had a few diesels on his property, mostly old 7.3’s and one f350 dually 4wd with a flatbed and a 12v Cummins that modified to the max. I had to look at his other trucks lol.

after I do the clutch and radius arm bushings I am going to go through the 9” completely and do all the bearing/seals/ gears and put in a limited slip in.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 10:39 PM
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OMGoodness. That 300 will be powerless with 3.0 gears.
But its not going to come apart going 70 mph either.
I would think 3:00 should work pretty good all around.
Nope, not the best for power or hauling heavy loads but just fine for a 6cyl 3 on the tree and just running around and light hauling.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2024 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rubiranch
But its not going to come apart going 70 mph either.
I would think 3:00 should work pretty good all around.
Nope, not the best for power or hauling heavy loads but just fine for a 6cyl 3 on the tree and just running around and light hauling.
Once the clutch is replaced and I get a good carb/timing tune I’ll be able to see how to 3.00 is. This truck won’t tow anything serious. I have a diesel for that. It will haul some landscape gravel, lumber, dirt bikes, furniture, camping gear etc. The most towing it might do is moving around a 18” car hauler trailer.
 
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