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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron vanbibber
Upon new install steering gearbox you do not lift the rear end off the ground, you do not lift front tires of the ground. Keeping steering pump full complete turns to stop 1st to the right back to center then complete to left back to center repeat several times and checking fluid leval in steering pump. Now the reasons...
It takes the resistant back presure created with tires on the ground to replace air in the pump with fluid.
This sounds like tractor mechanic logic. Show me the physics, data, and calculations that you did to prove your theory. The engineers at Ford had access to multi-million dollar testing facilities and spent millions more determining how their systems work best. Do you have the same or is this just something that a neighbor told you? Please don't confuse people with anecdotal evidence based on backyard conversations. Power steering systems are self bleeding and the pressures present are more than enough to push any air up into the reservoir and bleed it out. The wheels are up in the air to make it easier for the user to move the system with the steering wheel and not stress a system that might not be lubricated properly after replacing a component. You don't need any "resistant back pressure", whatever that is, to do that. Do you really think that a few extra newtons of friction force is going to make a demonstrable difference relative to the 1000 PSI of pressure the pump is producing?

Follow the Ford procedure or the one produced by companies that actually test their components over and over again so they can provide you with a warrantable part.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 01:21 PM
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Been there done that.

My 1st repair on my 1st car was at 15, shade tree yes. 53 years later im still doing the repairs that work without spending thousands on tech smarts as you mentioned and by the way where is your degree from? And also i guess you love your truck/car replaced with updated plastic items!
 
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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 01:22 PM
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Title has "RESOLVED" so what was the fix?
Last I seen the OP post was a re-bleeding over 2 days did not help and tried to call but closed for the holiday till Monday.
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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron vanbibber
My 1st repair on my 1st car was at 15, shade tree yes. 53 years later im still doing the repairs that work without spending thousands on tech smarts as you mentioned and by the way where is your degree from? And also i guess you love your truck/car replaced with updated plastic items!
Georgia Tech. 20 years of experience as an automotive engineer at GM and Chrysler. Continue with the witchdoctor stuff if it works for
you, just keep it to yourself and don’t spread the disease.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 05:51 PM
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Ok so glad to see you got the problem resolved. So let us put an end to the building side show please.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 08:43 AM
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Ok so glad to see you got the problem resolved. So let us put an end to the building side show please.
Or is it
I went back over the 2 pages and I did not see where he fixed it.
Last posted was he did a 2 day bleed and it was still doing the "shake & shimmy" and support was closed so he was thinking of putting the old valve back in place as he did not know what else to do.
So did he install the old valve and that fixed it or ........
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tbruz
RESOLUTION.I replaced the brand new LARES control valve with my old crusty valve and the issue is solved; steering is silky smooth now. I was able to R&R the control valve with minimal fluid loss by loosening one line at a time and plugging each line opening with rolled up earplugs. I also had a thin neck funnel with type F fluid already sitting in the fill tube to replace any lost fluid and to avoid/minimize any air introduction. Upon completion of the re-install and with front wheels lifted; I turned steering wheel stop-to-stop two times, cranked engine for 2 seconds without starting and then turned steering wheel lock to lock 2 more times. Fluid level never changed so I started the truck and had PERFECT steering immediately. I am extremely upset at LARES for the defective crap they sold and for the time loss I had. I will voice my displeasure at them on Monday and at Rock Auto to hopefully recover my shipping costs. Thanks to all who helped keep me on track with this. Tbruz
Sounds fixed to me, yes he has his old crusty valve back on the truck, but he has perfect steering.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 11:10 AM
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If you don’t want it to be so old and crusty anymore send it off to a place like Midwest Steering. They can rebuild it for you. Although I would also understand leaving it the way it is since you dodged a bullet and got it working again.

https://www.midweststeering.com/repairs/
 
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