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RLA said the front diff may be a Dana 44 HD .....
And you are welcome
Gonna hit the sack for the night to try to sleep off some of this cranky lol
Hopefully we're all feeling better today. I know I am, and I'm looking forward to gas prices coming down! Drill baby, drill! LOL
There seems some replaced pieces and some original on my '88, so I need to snoop around. My first priority is electrical and I'll be able to at least try to see what axles are on it, and then go from there. In regard to front axle replacement, not very likely, unless I can't get the engine started or need to replace the engine. If so I might consider swapping the front axle at that point, but I don't plan to do any rock crawling with it, so a Dana 50 would be fine, if that is what is on it.
Hopefully we're all feeling better today. I know I am, and I'm looking forward to gas prices coming down! Drill baby, drill! LOL
There seems some replaced pieces and some original on my '88, so I need to snoop around. My first priority is electrical and I'll be able to at least try to see what axles are on it, and then go from there. In regard to front axle replacement, not very likely, unless I can't get the engine started or need to replace the engine. If so I might consider swapping the front axle at that point, but I don't plan to do any rock crawling with it, so a Dana 50 would be fine, if that is what is on it.
that's a dana 44 HD. unfortunately Im a little too familiar with those. they use a slightly different bolt and thickness of manual locker. do please take the wheel off and verify though. it should also say on the tag on the axle housing. I do recommend you look at the front and rear for these tags and to Read them because If they are still there (or in the trucks interior) you shouldn't treat them as the end all be all but at least you can see what ratios and what bs the previous owner did to the poor truck since you really really don't want to break that transfer case trust me. now if you don't want to see if the ratios are the same you can put it into 4wd and let it slowly crawl forward and listen for binding with it locked. it will try to snap the chain pretty quick so only move like a foot
that's a dana 44 HD. unfortunately Im a little too familiar with those. they use a slightly different bolt and thickness of manual locker. do please take the wheel off and verify though. it should also say on the tag on the axle housing. I do recommend you look at the front and rear for these tags and to Read them because If they are still there (or in the trucks interior) you shouldn't treat them as the end all be all but at least you can see what ratios and what bs the previous owner did to the poor truck since you really really don't want to break that transfer case trust me. now if you don't want to see if the ratios are the same you can put it into 4wd and let it slowly crawl forward and listen for binding with it locked. it will try to snap the chain pretty quick so only move like a foot
Yeah, one problem is there's a lot of dirt/mud caked on the undercarriage, the previous owner kept it in his yard which was fenced but it was dirt. I have a cordless angle grinder that I'm hoping will help find some numbers. I know where the M5OD plate is located, but not sure yet about the axles. Either outside or inside on an ear by the center is what I had read. But I need to look at it. Short of looking at the gears I could try the tire trick and turn it while counting driveshaft rotations.
Yeah, one problem is there's a lot of dirt/mud caked on the undercarriage, the previous owner kept it in his yard which was fenced but it was dirt. I have a cordless angle grinder that I'm hoping will help find some numbers. I know where the M5OD plate is located, but not sure yet about the axles. Either outside or inside on an ear by the center is what I had read. But I need to look at it. Short of looking at the gears I could try the tire trick and turn it while counting driveshaft rotations.
little tag should just be on a differential cover bolt but they get lost easy so plan for the worst and be suprised when it's fine.
Because if the front and rear do not match, the first time you try to use four wheel drive you are going to go nowhere or go places very slowly with a lot of binding and bumping and tire hopping and it's going to be very obvious something is wrong.
Because the axle that is in the truck per your picture......was not available from Ford assembly plants ....in your truck....
Just to revisit this as in the 1988 Light Duty Specification Book it states just as I was trying to explain to you.
In California they had an option for the 4.10LS gears for an F-250 4x4. The 4.10 gears were std. on 4 speed automatics, and 4.10LS optional, but an option for the 5-speed manual on the F-250 4x4.
The book doesn’t mean anything. You have a different style 10.25 than what came factory the PO swapped it out and the truck is now a mix of trucks. Why don’t you see if it’ll even run before putting so much worry into the axles. There’s a reason it was such a good deal for you. You might be better off selling it yourself. The front axle will have a 44 or 50 in big numbers on the bottom of the pumpkin. Crawl under and look. The 50 will look like this.
what everyone is trying to say is that your rear axle has been swapped out and the ratio is unknown. If you put it into 4x4 without knowing if it’s the same ratio as the front it’ll destroy your transfer case. Yea your door sticker says 10.25 4:10. However it was the smaller of the 10.25 options. Someone replaced that axle with the heavier duty version of the 10.25 which is clearly shown in your pictures. The axle code on your truck says it came with the lighter duty. It’s now the heavier duty.
Just to revisit this as in the 1988 Light Duty Specification Book it states just as I was trying to explain to you.
In California they had an option for the 4.10LS gears for an F-250 4x4. The 4.10 gears were std. on 4 speed automatics, and 4.10LS optional, but an option for the 5-speed manual on the F-250 4x4.
1988 Truck Light Duty Specification Book
The top is the HEAVY DUTY axle currently in your truck.
The bottom is the axle that would have been originally installed in the LIGHT DUTY f250. See the difference in the circles? One has 8 extra bolts to hold the axle in the housing. That is not what came in your truck. So it being in your truck means it could possibly be the wrong ratio as the full float came in several different ratios.
You are still missing or not understanding the point. Your truck does not have the same rear axle that was installed at the factory.
So I'm at fault for trying to understand exactly what I have in my truck? Well, thanks a bunch! This is exactly the conflicting type of information that was spewed in my truck thread. AFAICT, your comments didn't help at all, and in fact seemed to taint things.
So I'm at fault for trying to understand exactly what I have in my truck? Well, thanks a bunch! This is exactly the conflicting type of information that was spewed in my truck thread. AFAICT, your comments didn't help at all, and in fact seemed to taint things.
You singled out my comment, why? All I did was reiterate what you have been told several times by multiple people. Those people have also posted pictures showing the difference between the axle that was originally installed from the factory and what is currently in the truck. At this point I am starting to think you are screwing with them.
You singled out my comment, why? All I did was reiterate what you have been told several times by multiple people. Those people have also posted pictures showing the difference between the axle that was originally installed from the factory and what is currently in the truck. At this point I am starting to think you are screwing with them.
I think your reply insinuated that the axle was not a Ford axle of that year. When I tried to explain, you insulted me, telling me it wasn't an original part. It's ok, we're all just people on the Internet, but when I tried to explain you insisted it was replaced. At least that is how I read it, whether you meant it like that or not.
I came looking for info on the truck I have. I'm just sorting through various comments that seem to contradict each other, and have been stumped...because I don't know what's actually on the pickup myself, so how can anyone else know from somewhere on the Internet? My '97 is yet another example of CA being different. They have different emissions and requirements and are often used as a guinea pig for national emissions.
I wasn't trying to out you in public, but I can't seem to send image attachments in PM, so the easiest I could think of was to post that info in this thread. I have tried to put images on my server, and insert a URL of a PM, but they don't show. I don't think we can attach an image to a PM though...
The info is here for all to see, so that in the future, the Ford brain trust may remember that California is even more f#@$'d up than you can imagine. Anyway, I digress, and wasn't trying to ruffle your feathers or point our your message, my other thread had a lot of contradicting info. Seems you were the one that told me I should know which ones to believe or not. I explain that here from my perspective.
I'm gonna still make sure I identify every part on my truck as best I can, as anything can be changed.
Dude it’s not a California special. It’s a light duty 250 that came with a semi float sterling 10.25 that someone put a full float in. It’s not special. All everyone is trying to do is explain that to you. Through your last thread and this thread you have been told numerous times that the axle code from the factory was for a semi float and that the axle in there is a full float. Can you see the pictures they are providing that show the hub? Do you know which part is considered the hub? If not, it is that part that is bulging out in the center of the rim that’s not part of the rim, but part of the axle. See how yours matches the pictures of a full float because the hub comes out beyond the rim about four inches? One side you have a hub cap on and the other is the other side of the hub without a cap. (Rear axle)
as I stated before. It doesn’t matter what axle it has if you can’t get it running. You’ll find about the front axle real quickly if you just get under the vehicle and look for the numbers 44 or 50 on the pumpkin. You’ll see in my previous post the picture and the numbers are larger about an inch and a quarter and hard to miss.
because I don't know what's actually on the pickup myself, so how can anyone else know from somewhere on the Internet?
Simple. Because we know Ford LDF250's didn't come from the factory with that F250HD/F350 SRW axle that's sitting under it right now (not even trucks built for the state of California......That would do 0% for emissions.)
Ford didn't offer the F350 DRW axle that I bolted under my F250HD either...........But that didn't stop me from bolting it in. Just the same way someone else upgraded your truck.
No ones insulting your or your truck, by letting you know someone upgraded the rear axle in it. Go buy a pair of brake shoes according to the vin of your truck and you're going to learn they wont fit. We're trying to save you time and headaches.
The only thing we can't see from the photos is the gear ratio. Make sure it's right, or break parts. People informing you of this are trying to save you loads of time and money.........Not insult your upgraded truck.
You do have a factory Ford rear under your truck.... just not the lighter duty one that came off the assembly line. We're informing you, you've been upgraded to the F350 SRW rear axle by a previous owner. Buy parts as if you have an F350 SRW whenever you need parts associated with it and you'll get the right parts. Having people tell you this is kindness and informative. Not insulting.
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