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Old Nov 4, 2024 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 97SuperDuty
Agreed, but it could be useful if I was to find a D60 axle, as this would match with the rear axle gears. Seems the data says it was 9.75" but it looks like 9.5" to me.
Match how? Ring gear size and if so why does that matter?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2024 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Match how? Ring gear size and if so why does that matter?
No, match in regard to ratio, 4.10:1. Per my door info my Sterling has 4.10, and I don't know what the D50 is that is in it, I haven't got that far yet. First, I need to assess the electrical and engine to see if I can get it running.

Unless I find a problem, I'm not likely to swap the D50 for a D60. If anything, I would want the 4WD for BLM trails to hunt and/or rescue game. I don't plan to do any Rubicon crawling with it. The original ideal I had was if I had a capable pickup that could pull a trailer up my driveway, that would be nice. A winch would also be nice, to pull stuff up the driveway. And to get a final live-in permit for the home, I need to get the encroachment (front 20' from public roadways) cemented and I will most likely get the driveway cemented up to the shop. That may take that need away...the bricknose is growing on me, but she's gonna be a handful to get going. Just gonna take one thing at a time.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 97SuperDuty
Per my door info my Sterling has 4.10, and I don't know what the D50 is that is in it, I haven't got that far yet.
Your truck may not have a D50 front axle. The photo from your other thread appears to show the front axle is more than likely a D44HD. A simple way to verify that is measuring the hub diameter.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 97SuperDuty
No, match in regard to ratio, 4.10:1. Per my door info my Sterling has 4.10, and I don't know what the D50 is that is in it, I haven't got that far yet.
Your Semi float Sterling HAD a 4.10. The truck now has an unknown full float axle in the rear. The rear end in your truck is not the original. As per the VIN you posted in the other thread, the gvw is in the 6001 to 7000 range. So a light duty f250. I had one of those trucks... the current rearend in your truck is not the original. So unless you confirm ( by either counting driveshaft rotations vs one tire rotation, or pulling the diff cover and reading the numbers, ) you have no idea what gear ratio it is.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudsport96
Your Semi float Sterling HAD a 4.10. The truck now has an unknown full float axle in the rear. The rear end in your truck is not the original. As per the VIN you posted in the other thread, the gvw is in the 6001 to 7000 range. So a light duty f250. I had one of those trucks... the current rearend in your truck is not the original. So unless you confirm ( by either counting driveshaft rotations vs one tire rotation, or pulling the diff cover and reading the numbers, ) you have no idea what gear ratio it is.
No, it has a Sterling 10.25 on the rear. I believe the front axle is a D50, but I still need to ID that for certain.

Not sure why you say it's not the original axle, it's listed on the door info as a B5. You're correct I don't know exactly what ratio is, and nobody can know that without taking it apart and counting the teeth on ring/pinion or see a stamp on the ring gear. I don't see how anyone could know without removing the carrier, even if the axle can be ID'd.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
Your truck may not have a D50 front axle. The photo from your other thread appears to show the front axle is more than likely a D44HD. A simple way to verify that is measuring the hub diameter.
They're dark, so must be the D50. Thank you. I will measure when I get back to the yard, cause maybe the color is irrelevant.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 97SuperDuty
No, it has a Sterling 10.25 on the rear.

Not sure why you say it's not the original axle, it's listed on the door info as a B5.
A few reasons you are wrong.
1. Your vin comes back as the 6001-7000 gvw light duty f250
2. You have the 302/5 0 per the Vin, this was never an optional motor for the HD 250 so you have the LD 250
3. You posted a picture of the rear axle being a full float sterling axle...

This was not an axle that was in the light duty f250

The light duty got the semi float 10.25 sterling.


So it is not the original axle in the truck. You need to find out what gear ratio is in the rear axle. Because if the front and rear do not match, the first time you try to use four wheel drive you are going to break something.

Not trying to be a jerk. Just letting you know that this truck is a conglomeration of multiple trucks. And you need to know that before going and buying parts. Brakes for one doesn't fit the other and vice-versa.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudsport96
This was not an axle that was in the light duty f250
I guess you're right, I have no idea and not sure how you can say that's not the original without understanding the truck.

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Not trying to be a jerk.
Me neither, but we don't seem to be connecting with each other.

From the door and VIN I believe I have the correct rear axle, not sure about the front, but do know the carrier in the back is for a D60. That's about all I know.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 97SuperDuty
Not sure why you say it's not the original axle, it's listed on the door info as a B5. You're correct I don't know exactly what ratio is, and nobody can know that without taking it apart and counting the teeth on ring/pinion or see a stamp on the ring gear. I don't see how anyone could know without removing the carrier, even if the axle can be ID'd.
Easy...Axle Code B5 denotes a semi-floating Sterling 10.25 rear axle.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 03:42 PM
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They're dark, so must be the D50. Thank you. I will measure when I get back to the yard, cause maybe the color is irrelevant.
The color is irrelevant. Measure the hub to verify what the front axle is.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 97SuperDuty
not sure how you can say that's not the original without understanding the truck.
Because the axle that is in the truck per your picture......was not available from Ford assembly plants ....in your truck....

Me neither, but we don't seem to be connecting with each other.
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I posted a picture with the two different rearends. The light duty ( what your truck had when it left the assembly line) and the heavy duty( what it has now). Not sure how that can't be connected as theybwere labeled. They are BOTH Sterling 10.25 rearends. The axle ends are different. One has the axles retained by clips internal to the carrier (light duty semi float) and the other has them retained by bolts at the outer ends (heavy duty full float).
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudsport96
Because the axle that is in the truck per your picture......was not available from Ford assembly plants ....in your truck....
Ok, it sounds like I'm wrong.

I can't assess what gears are inside anything though, and I haven't gotten any numbers off the axles themselves, or opened anything yet. I will need to take your word for it. I don't know exactly what I have yet. But I guarantee you that I will know.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2024 | 08:53 PM
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I'm trying to get my head around what I have, and this is the best pics I can scrounge up.

Front hub, not a great pic, but pretty clear that it is black under those webs.


Front hub on my '88 F-250 axle.
Front hub on my '88 F-250 axle.

And the rear hub, this does have some numbers on it. Are you saying this is a Dana 44 ??? If so, is there a way to tell what gears were in it originally. A 60 carrier won't fit in a 44 pumpkin, will it? If this is a Dana 44, I agree that it is not original. There could be different gears inside that are not original, that was my point in the last message.


Rear hub on my '88 F-250 axle.
Rear hub on my '88 F-250 axle.
 
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I'm trying to get my head around what I have, and this is the best pics I can scrounge up.

And the rear hub, this does have some numbers on it. Are you saying this is a Dana 44 ??? If so, is there a way to tell what gears were in it originally. A 60 carrier won't fit in a 44 pumpkin, will it? If this is a Dana 44, I agree that it is not original. There could be different gears inside that are not original, that was my point in the last message.


Rear hub on my 88 F-250 axle.
Rear hub on my '88 F-250 axle.
Here, I cropped the previous picture I posted for you...

Sterling. 10.25. Full floating axle.
At no point.. In either of your threads, did anyone suggest you had a dana 44 rear axle.
 
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Originally Posted by Mudsport96
At no point.. In either of your threads, did anyone suggest you had a dana 44 rear axle.
I thought that is what you said above. You mentioned a Dana 44, I was guessing you're talking about the rear axle. Odd thing is my vin shows up as a Styleside HD. Look, I don't really know what they did. As a kid I worked for my parents in a liquor store around the corner from the South Gate GM plant in Southeast L.A. When the workers would come in they would joke about putting wrong parts on cars, having extra bolts in their overalls, but they came in most every night to get some alcohol...

This is to say, a lot of strange stuff goes on in the factory. My '97, I don't know but it seems my front tank is smaller than 19.0 gallons. It was sold as a cab and chassis, so it's the same thing...could have been ordered special like that with a small tank on purpose.

I don't know very much about this truck, just trying to find out. Thanks for the help you've provided.
 
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