2008+ Cruise Control install...
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For the 2008 model year you would need the correct steering with controls, the control switch assembly and the correct clock spring. Most like someone with Forscan who can enable it in the PCM or the dealership would be necessary as well.
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I don't have firsthand experiece adding cruit control to your van. The wiring diagrams show you the only hardware needed is the correct steering wheel with the cruise control buttons. You would need to confirm the buttons send the proper soignals to the PCM.
https://charm.li/Ford%20Truck/2008/E...ise%20Control/
The PCM will have to be configured for cruise control. This may be possible with Forscan but you won't knwo for sure until you connect to the van and try it. Alternatley, you can try to have a dealership configure it but they aren't typically very helpful for these types of do-it-yourselr modifications. A local repar shop with Ford IDS or similar software can probably do it.
https://charm.li/Ford%20Truck/2008/E...ise%20Control/
The PCM will have to be configured for cruise control. This may be possible with Forscan but you won't knwo for sure until you connect to the van and try it. Alternatley, you can try to have a dealership configure it but they aren't typically very helpful for these types of do-it-yourselr modifications. A local repar shop with Ford IDS or similar software can probably do it.
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I don't have firsthand experiece adding cruit control to your van. The wiring diagrams show you the only hardware needed is the correct steering wheel with the cruise control buttons. You would need to confirm the buttons send the proper soignals to the PCM.
https://charm.li/Ford%20Truck/2008/E...ise%20Control/
The PCM will have to be configured for cruise control. This may be possible with Forscan but you won't knwo for sure until you connect to the van and try it. Alternatley, you can try to have a dealership configure it but they aren't typically very helpful for these types of do-it-yourselr modifications. A local repar shop with Ford IDS or similar software can probably do it.
https://charm.li/Ford%20Truck/2008/E...ise%20Control/
The PCM will have to be configured for cruise control. This may be possible with Forscan but you won't knwo for sure until you connect to the van and try it. Alternatley, you can try to have a dealership configure it but they aren't typically very helpful for these types of do-it-yourselr modifications. A local repar shop with Ford IDS or similar software can probably do it.
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I used Forscan with the newest version, and tried 4 different adaprers to be sure... i could not access the module to find the cruise control. I was told its in the body conrtol module?
I was only able to access basic functions like door locks, tpms settings, seat belt reminder, etc.
I was so hopeful this would have worked, but now I'm at the mercy of the local stealership service misadvisors...lol.
I called two local dealers and they didn't want to do it either... San Diego CA.
I hope someone on here sees us and helps.
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Unfortunately Forscan is not very sophisticated when it comes to older vehicles (before 2014 or so). If any changes are possible they have to be made by editing the "as built" data. These are the numbers you see in the F150 spreadsheets.
Nobody has researched and made a spreadsheet for any model year Econoline. An astute Forscan user could possibly find the data bits that correspond to cruise control. They probably reside in the PCM. If I had a similar van (mine is 1997), I could try to figure it out. But it takes some trial and error testing that is not for the novice user. I'll try to look at the data and see if anything obvious shows up. Basically, I'll pull data from a 2012 w/o cruise and compare it to data with cruise.
Nobody has researched and made a spreadsheet for any model year Econoline. An astute Forscan user could possibly find the data bits that correspond to cruise control. They probably reside in the PCM. If I had a similar van (mine is 1997), I could try to figure it out. But it takes some trial and error testing that is not for the novice user. I'll try to look at the data and see if anything obvious shows up. Basically, I'll pull data from a 2012 w/o cruise and compare it to data with cruise.
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Hey Don, thank you so much for the info and your time. It's a complex puzzle to navigate without a spreadsheet for sure. With sooo many E -series made i would have thought the interest in them being accessible Forscan would have been greater.
I'm going to hold off on the dealership route for now I decided. They seem very reluctant to help with such a "small matter".
I look forward to any info you may find, and am happy to throw a donation your way for the efforts.
I'm going to hold off on the dealership route for now I decided. They seem very reluctant to help with such a "small matter".
I look forward to any info you may find, and am happy to throw a donation your way for the efforts.
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In case it helps, here are the factory PCM values for a 2009 E-250 with 5.4L without cruise according to https://www.motorcraftservice.com/AsBuilt/Details
PCM Modules
PCM 1 FFFF FFFF 020F
PCM 2 AC0E ECFF FFB6
PCM 3 FFFF 01FF 1F30
PCM 4 FFFF FFFF FF0F
PCM 5 FFFF FFFF FF10
PCM 6 FFFF FFFF FF11
PCM 7 FFFF FFFF FF12
PCM 8 FFFF FFFF FF13
PCM 9 FFFF FFFF FF14
PCM Modules
PCM 1 FFFF FFFF 020F
PCM 2 AC0E ECFF FFB6
PCM 3 FFFF 01FF 1F30
PCM 4 FFFF FFFF FF0F
PCM 5 FFFF FFFF FF10
PCM 6 FFFF FFFF FF11
PCM 7 FFFF FFFF FF12
PCM 8 FFFF FFFF FF13
PCM 9 FFFF FFFF FF14
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So, a quick comparison of PCM data between cruise and no cruise shows many different data fields. I'm not sure how to proceed.
This post regarding a 2018 Econoline may or may not be applicable.
https://forscan.org/forum/viewtopic....control#p47014
I would find an independent mechanic that has IDS. They can see what options it shows. This is your best bet at this point.
This post regarding a 2018 Econoline may or may not be applicable.
https://forscan.org/forum/viewtopic....control#p47014
I would find an independent mechanic that has IDS. They can see what options it shows. This is your best bet at this point.
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Don, i appreciate the effort. And I agree with you, I'm going to call an independent shop versed in the Ford software and see what they can offer.
At the least I may avoid some frustration with a dealership who can care less about small jobs like mine.
At the least I may avoid some frustration with a dealership who can care less about small jobs like mine.
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