Notices
2017 - 2022 Super Duty The 2017-2022 Ford F250, F350, F450, F550 & F600 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Overload spring question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 04:47 PM
  #1  
Harry24's Avatar
Harry24
Thread Starter
|
Trailering
Joined: Jul 2024
Posts: 17
Likes: 9
Overload spring question

I have a 24 350 xlt ccsb 4x4 7.3 gasser. I know these are considered work trucks but I will not be towing heavy equipment or having skids of bricks in the bed. My question is can 1 or both of the overload springs be removed from the rear



to improve the ride when the truck is empty? I have adjusted the air pressure down which has helped some. I know it will not ride like a Lincoln but just looking for some improvement. Thank you.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 05:06 PM
  #2  
jcb804's Avatar
jcb804
More Turbo
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2023
Posts: 700
Likes: 478
Spring rate is what you're needing to change to get a softer ride. Just removing springs is not going to change the spring rate of the remaining springs. The unloaded harshness will hardly change. Replace your spring pack with the F250 or aftermarket with a lower spring rate.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 05:08 PM
  #3  
1olddogtwo's Avatar
1olddogtwo
Cargo Master
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,403
Likes: 1,123
That overload spring really does not come into play unless you're on some really bad roads.

You probably have 2 to 3 in before that engages. I doubt you'll see a difference. The rear will engage first.

To answer your question, yes you can remove that but you will need new u-bolts.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 05:16 PM
  #4  
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,653
Likes: 4,740
From: Itinerant
Besides you can or you like the looks why buy a F350 to make it a F150?
Silliness.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 05:40 PM
  #5  
rjacobs's Avatar
rjacobs
More Turbo
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Nov 2021
Posts: 591
Likes: 320
Overload springs dont do anything until they touch the ears on the frame... so no removing them wont do anything...

And your springs are likely the softest factory available springs that are out there unless you have the camper package or the plow package...

Aftermarket Deaver spring packs can be had in lower rates.

I have a similar truck except a Lariat and I run 50lbs front and 45lbs in the rear when unloaded.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 06:34 PM
  #6  
4wd6.7L's Avatar
4wd6.7L
Lead Driver
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 8,640
Likes: 2,433
I wouldn't remove either overload spring. The top auxiliary spring, as others have pointed out, doesn't even engage until 3" or so of suspension travel. The bottom overload also shouldn't be contributing much to the ride until under load. The suggestion to go with the standard 250 leafs or aftermarket might be the way to go. The standard 250 leaf packs only have 3 leafs total, 2 mains and a bottom overload.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 06:59 PM
  #7  
Black Buzzard's Avatar
Black Buzzard
Tuned
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 304
Likes: 208
My overload springs are within 1/2 inch of touching the upper spring stop when static in driveway and 2300-2400 pounds in the bed. So those springs get used for ever single bump I hit.

2300 pounds is only a little over half what a SRW F350 can carry.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 07:45 PM
  #8  
SARDiverDan's Avatar
SARDiverDan
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,883
Likes: 777
From: SoCal/Wyoming
I would just add 400-500 pounds of whatever in the bed for a better ride before I started pulling stuff off the truck.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 08:06 PM
  #9  
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,653
Likes: 4,740
From: Itinerant
Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I would just add 400-500 pounds of whatever in the bed for a better ride before I started pulling stuff off the truck.
What......carry weight in an empty truck for a better ride. Now that makes sense...won't happen.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 08:47 PM
  #10  
Harry24's Avatar
Harry24
Thread Starter
|
Trailering
Joined: Jul 2024
Posts: 17
Likes: 9
Thanks for the replies. I had an 18 250KR that rode fantastic so I was just trying to get your thoughts on some ideas to soften the ride up. Thanks again.
 
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 04:48 AM
  #11  
Darko Marko's Avatar
Darko Marko
5th Wheeling
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 44
Likes: 18
From: Connecticut
Perhaps look into a Carli progressive leaf pack. They are tuned for softer ride. It will lower your payload 15% but that doesn’t seem to an issue for your use.
 
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 04:49 AM
  #12  
Darko Marko's Avatar
Darko Marko
5th Wheeling
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2024
Posts: 44
Likes: 18
From: Connecticut
Sorry, one more: perhaps look into Sulastic shackles too?
 
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 06:24 AM
  #13  
99powerstrokedF250's Avatar
99powerstrokedF250
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,100
Likes: 1,635
Originally Posted by Harry24
Thanks for the replies. I had an 18 250KR that rode fantastic so I was just trying to get your thoughts on some ideas to soften the ride up. Thanks again.
You went from an F250 to an F350 and expected the ride to be the same or softer? That's...not how it works. Your reasoning for stepping up to an F350 is your own, but it sounds like it may not have been the right choice.

First thing I'd try is lower air pressures in the tires - it's free to do and might get you where you want to be. Just be aware that lower tire pressures WILL change how it handles.

Try getting a few sand bags if you don't regularly haul anything and toss them in the bed. Often just a little weight in the bed of an F350 will ease the ride.

Removing the 'helper' springs and overloads won't really change the ride much, if at all.

Your next option is to get softer springs but you're likely going to lose payload capacity.

After that...I think you'd basically have to buy a different truck, maybe go back to an F250.
 
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 06:35 AM
  #14  
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,653
Likes: 4,740
From: Itinerant
When fiddling with the rear leafs don't forget the front springs. Don't want a soft azz and a stiff front.... or do you?
 
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 06:42 AM
  #15  
BDWSD22's Avatar
BDWSD22
Tuned
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2021
Posts: 429
Likes: 126
Tires anyone?

Changing to all season or highway tires that ride softer and have a taller sidewall could also help. Keep an eye on the minimum tire load rating. You can use Forscan to set the tire pressure threshold lower so that you don't have constant low tire pressure warnings.

I run 12-ply mudders 33x12.5x20 at 75psi in my F-350 and nobody complains about a harsh empty ride. I tow a big RV with my SCLB w/snowplow & camper pkgs, 6.7L and when its loaded its like a Lincoln Town Car. My next set will likely be all season 295/65R20 10-ply as I have a spare set of mounted Nexen studded snow tires for severe weather.

I did order a '25 Maverick Lariat hybrid AWD for commuting and errands and they ride like a car. It will also be able to be parked easily, can haul 1,500lbs and tow 4,000lbs. This will allow my Superduty to last longer by keeping my 104 mile daily commute from racking up miles.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:31 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE