Delete kit
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Cross-Country
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Delete kit
No interest at all in opinions on doing it or not. I've got a 17 with failing def system and almost constant frequent regen codes and would rather spend half the money to get rid of it than replace it. Any recent experience in getting hands on a kit? Canadian retailer or something like that? I can handle install.
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I've heard it's getting down to local tuners that are willing to put in time and effort to make good tunes. Some good, some not so good, but that's what's left. It just isn't worth the risk anymore for people to openly sell commercially. Anyone that may know of a source isn't going to discuss it on an open forum like this. Good luck in your search and hopefully you find a good one out there.
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I've heard it's getting down to local tuners that are willing to put in time and effort to make good tunes. Some good, some not so good, but that's what's left. It just isn't worth the risk anymore for people to openly sell commercially. Anyone that may know of a source isn't going to discuss it on an open forum like this. Good luck in your search and hopefully you find a good one out there.
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Totally depends on where you live. Some places this is going to be a no-go. Others you can just walk into a diesel shop and they'll do it for you. Heck mine even used U.S. sourced tuning earlier this summer. So you're just going to have to check around your area and be smart about it when you walk in to talk to folks. Maybe hint around and see if they make the offer.
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KEEP the components regardless of what you do so you can reinstall them if needed. Just remember that there are 41,000 reasons not to delete.
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I would disagree with that. An engine is basically an air pump. If you make it easier for the air to flow, you make it easier to get power. You could use a stock/no emissions tune and the truck would still run better just because it's not inhaling it's own poop and trying to force it out through a honeycomb grid.
Also, the OP's MPG improvement largely comes from the fact that he's not wasting fuel on regeneration anymore.
It's a win win win all the way around. The KISS principle. Which is precisely why the USAF trucks don't have any of that stuff on them.
Also, the OP's MPG improvement largely comes from the fact that he's not wasting fuel on regeneration anymore.
It's a win win win all the way around. The KISS principle. Which is precisely why the USAF trucks don't have any of that stuff on them.
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I would disagree with that. An engine is basically an air pump. If you make it easier for the air to flow, you make it easier to get power. You could use a stock/no emissions tune and the truck would still run better just because it's not inhaling it's own poop and trying to force it out through a honeycomb grid.
No argument there.
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That's applying gasoline engine logic to a diesel. Gasoline engines have extremely narrow air fuel mixtures where they work well, so you are very performance limited according to how much air you can move. Diesels aren't like that. Air is technically a limitation but you're blowing smoke like a 3 alarm fire before you need more air to make more power. Getting more power in a diesel is a simple as adding more fuel, and to some extent injection timing, but you'll never get more power by adding more air nor does adding air make it any easier to add more fuel. Cpobst is correct, the increase in power is from the increase in fuel from the tune. The reason we add airflow to a diesel is to keep temperatures in check.
No argument there.
No argument there.
Cargo Master
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A few years ago I think it was 5-star (but I could be wrong) compared a deleted and emission intact truck both with factory power tunes and there was no difference in power. If I can find the video I will post it.
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