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I remember a few years ago I was doing some work on aircraft MRO overseas, there were just literal trash heaps on fire all over the city that the facility I was working on across the chain link fence. That's when I realized no matter how much we conserve and try to reduce our carbon footprint, the rest of the world makes our effort at best, quixotic.
And we have to suck our sodas through paper straws because Asia dumps their trash into the rivers:
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if you don't care about emissions, which I do not, there is no positive argument for any of the deleted parts. None. An engineer starting from scratch and designing a diesel engine would never include any of it. They improve emissions and that's it. If removing them gave you the exact same performance it's still a win for eliminating pointless things that can fail and leave you stranded.
And if what you're saying is true and this difference in performance and mileage is strictly related to tuning, it's insane not to tune them this way from the start.
Also, if you believe the mileage gains are only from not having regen, that works out to about 18 gallons of diesel used for regen every 1000 miles. There's no way.
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Another option is to buy low miles take offs
this way you don’t have to worry about what is around the corner.
me personally do not believe a dpf or scr can’t be chemically cleaned…a few dozen videos on you tube on how to do that.
this way you don’t have to worry about what is around the corner.
me personally do not believe a dpf or scr can’t be chemically cleaned…a few dozen videos on you tube on how to do that.
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Exactly why I hate all this "green" crap. It's being forced down our throats, while we were already one of the cleanest countries in the world decades ago. Now we are being used as a guinea pig for the rest of the world. EV's and emissions forced on us while 90% of the world runs on vehicles with tech from the '70's.
And we have to suck our sodas through paper straws because Asia dumps their trash into the rivers:
And we have to suck our sodas through paper straws because Asia dumps their trash into the rivers:
I am unfortunately stuck on the west coast with elderly parents that need someone nearby,. Here on our streets and freeways cars and trucks with no plates, no muffler, limo tint and driver probably riding dirty never get stopped, for "reasons".
But hey, the lazyboy warriors in the suburbs think if they just give up a few more rights, they are saving the world. These people live in their bubbles and haven't see how their apathy has already brought the third world here.
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy;21346567And we have to suck our sodas through paper straws because [b
Asia dumps their trash into the rivers:
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so like an advertisement for their product?
if you don't care about emissions, which I do not, there is no positive argument for any of the deleted parts. None. An engineer starting from scratch and designing a diesel engine would never include any of it. They improve emissions and that's it. If removing them gave you the exact same performance it's still a win for eliminating pointless things that can fail and leave you stranded.
And if what you're saying is true and this difference in performance and mileage is strictly related to tuning, it's insane not to tune them this way from the start.
Also, if you believe the mileage gains are only from not having regen, that works out to about 18 gallons of diesel used for regen every 1000 miles. There's no way.
if you don't care about emissions, which I do not, there is no positive argument for any of the deleted parts. None. An engineer starting from scratch and designing a diesel engine would never include any of it. They improve emissions and that's it. If removing them gave you the exact same performance it's still a win for eliminating pointless things that can fail and leave you stranded.
And if what you're saying is true and this difference in performance and mileage is strictly related to tuning, it's insane not to tune them this way from the start.
Also, if you believe the mileage gains are only from not having regen, that works out to about 18 gallons of diesel used for regen every 1000 miles. There's no way.
Im not advocating for deleting or not deleting, I'm just saying you get zero power gain from just deleting. The power gain comes from the tune. And most of that comes from different throttle mapping which can be obtained with a pedal commander. And the only mpg gain will come from not doing regens which is ludicrous to think it equates to 3mpg.
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Yes I know. I was voice typing that yesterday. I meant for it to say most of the "seat of your pants" feel comes from throttle mapping.
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That aside, delete tunes are still out there however the waters are definitely murkier with the EPA to continue playing whack a mole with shops and the Chevron doctrine augmentation hasn't seem to take the wind out of their sails with regards to going after shops. That said, even in Massachusetts (a carb state), it is surprising the mount of deleted trucks are kicking around, so it is definitely out there. Caveat emptor.
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