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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 01:53 PM
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Charger problems

Okay fellas let’s talk calmly about my truck(94 350 cclb 460) before I lose my mind and burn it to the ground. So in the last month I’ve replaced the starter, starter solenoid, alternator, alternator pig tail, the battery and the ignition tumbler…after all this the truck won’t charge the battery. Now I’m at a loss idk if I have something wired backwards or if I blew a fuse link. I turn the truck on and 2 things happen if the regulator pig tail is plugged in the truck makes a god awful squeal like if the starter hasn’t disengaged. But if I unplug the pigtail the truck starts up and there’s no battery light plug it all back in and the light is on….i for the life of me can’t find my chiltons manual to look up any of the wiring and thus I am on the verge of burning all of it to the ground in spite. And help would be appreciated
 
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 03:15 PM
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You would rather burn your truck down than spend the money for another manual after spending all those $$$ already on parts?

What was the problem you were trying to fix in the first place?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 03:34 PM
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You would rather burn your truck down than spend the money for another manual after spending all those $$$ already on parts?

What was the problem you were trying to fix in the first place?
it’s not so much I don’t wanna spend the money it’s more so anytime I haven’t needed the manual it’s right were I need it but when I need it no where to be found and I’m not gonna burn the truck but it’s maddening.
as for the problem is after installing a new alternator the truck won’t charge the battery and I can’t figure out why.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 04:04 PM
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just because the alternator is "new" does not mean it is any good.
have you tested it for output voltage?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 04:25 PM
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just because the alternator is "new" does not mean it is any good.
have you tested it for output voltage?
I have not how would one go about testing that? The new alternator doesn’t have a removable main plug just the regulator off the back
 
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BullNose96
I have not how would one go about testing that? The new alternator doesn’t have a removable main plug just the regulator off the back
What voltage are you getting at the battery with the truck running?
 
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What voltage are you getting at the battery with the truck running?
12.4 at start up but within a few minutes it’s at 11.8
 
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Old Aug 4, 2024 | 05:14 PM
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Not charging. Should be 13.5-14V
 
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there should be a lug on the back of the alternator by itself, a single plug, and a double wire plug that goes into the voltage regulator.
the single lug should have at least 14 volts with engine running.
 
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You wouldn't be the first person to replace the starter solenoid and misplace the alternator power wire on the 'starter-terminal' instead of the 'always-hot' terminal.

 
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You have battery voltage at the back of the alternator at the big wire?
Are you sure the fuse link between the alternator and battery is good
I agree, even new out of the box sometimes alternators are no good or I have seen oil on the brushes from assembly make them not work
Smack the alternator with the back of a screwdriver and see if it wants to play just in case
1994 style, those brushes should last forever, but some oil on the commutator can make them not work at all for a minute
 
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You wouldn't be the first person to replace the starter solenoid and misplace the alternator power wire on the 'starter-terminal' instead of the 'always-hot' terminal.

Okay so I think I’ve fixed it. After stair at your photo I ran everything I had like this The red is a dual plug off the positive battery terminal. green is the regulator whip off the alternator. Yellow is I’m assuming the starter but am unsure. Blue is the small red starter lead off the back of the starter. Truck fired up and only gave me a slight grind of the starter but after a few cycles it seems to be gone. If anyone can look at this and tell me I got it right or if my truck is gonna burn?
Thanks in advance
 
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I believe that is how my 1994 5.0 is wired. I still have not figured out the point of that solenoid on the fender. You are correct, both sides of the solenoid are tied together and feed 1 wire back to the battery, if memory serves. The power wire to the starter is in no way involved with the circuit. I often wonder if it was put there just because "Ford pickups have always had a solenoid on the inner fender"?
 
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Originally Posted by BullNose96

Okay so I think I’ve fixed it. After stair at your photo I ran everything I had like this The red is a dual plug off the positive battery terminal. green is the regulator whip off the alternator. Yellow is I’m assuming the starter but am unsure. Blue is the small red starter lead off the back of the starter. Truck fired up and only gave me a slight grind of the starter but after a few cycles it seems to be gone. If anyone can look at this and tell me I got it right or if my truck is gonna burn?
Thanks in advance
Ooof. Let me help you with the wire ID.
The large photo-right terminal has a plastic molded y-wire that goes to the battery positive terminal. Known as "B+".
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The double yellow wires go to the power distribution box in the engine compartment. This wire feeds power to the ignition switch and accessories.
The green wire goes to your alternator and alternator-sense.
The small top terminal is the start-command wire from your ignition switch.
The large photo-left terminal has a the other leg of the plastic molded y-wire wire that goes down to your starter.
Besides that, the wiring looks correct.
 
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