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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 12:06 PM
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My experience with 33's

So I just got some new shoes on my truck. (1991 f150 302) And wanted to share how it is for me. (I had 31s to begin)

New tire size 33x11.5 (285/75/r16)

Power: It is a little more sluggish than before, but it's not bad, drives basically the same, it would benefit from 4.10s, but they aren't necessary (3.55 now)

Brakes: Increase in braking distance. Again not much, but they don't slow down as fast.

Steering: based on what I've heard, I am genuinely surprised it still steers quite well. I can't wheel lock without serious rubbing on the radius arms, but there is plenty for normal driving.

Notes: the only suspension mods I have are Moog cc824 springs, and Bilstein 4600 shocks, nothing else.

New tires are the exact same as old, just bigger

They are MT tires, and weigh like 55 pounds each IIRC. Aggressive tread.



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I would start researching more "fun stuff" for this rig, but turns out I need $1000 in front end work ...yay.​​​​​​
 
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 02:01 PM
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Been thinking about doing this myself so thanks for sharing your experience with 33's.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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You need some 4.56:1 gears with those heavy MTs. Truck will do everything better.
 
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Was just thinking...are those 12.5 or 10.5?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OBSession05
Was just thinking...are those 12.5 or 10.5?
11.5 width, I'll edit that in.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
You need some 4.56:1 gears with those heavy MTs. Truck will do everything better.
I have heard 4.56 are not good on the freeway, and are physically weak, but if this isn't true, I would consider them.

Are 4.30 an option for an old 8.8?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 10:43 PM
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I run a 4.10:1 with a short 275/60R15. Turns 2300 at 70mph roughly. 302 is gutless with a 3" stroke.

8.8" is basically a Ford copy of a GM 12 bolt. Now a 5.13:1 might be weak with big power.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 08:42 AM
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Looks good! Glad the springs and tires worked out. Bummer about the front end wear parts but it's a semi regular thing on these old trucks.

I've got 4.10 gears and a mildly built 351W on 33's, empty it's a good combo but at altitude and loaded I wish I had gone a little deeper. 4.30 is available for the 8.8 but not the d44. Need to swap in a d50 third member up front (bolt in swap) to have 4.30 as an option. But, I would probably just go 4.56 with a 302.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 10:44 AM
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Well that's another vote for 4.56, so that's what I'll do... Eventually...

What's the best place to get 8.8, and d44 gears?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 02:06 PM
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I have 285/75/16 on my 5.8 and 4.10 and hardly noticed a difference when I went up from stock tire size. If anything slightly lower rpm at highway speeds. 4.10 should be enough so you can still not be stuck at 65 mph on the freeway. I had 4.88 in my 450 and 80mph was just about red lined
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 02:10 PM
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I assume AOD for calculator as 302/AOD wildly common.

2200rpm is redlined?





 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 02:51 PM
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It was 2800 on an old 7.3 so ya almost redlined. I think anything more than 4:10 with 33s would be annoying at highway speeds if you don’t have a trailer 24/7 or a load I do t see the upside. I’d be annoyed with my 5.8 on the highway because where I live 70mph is slow and 75 is ideal. The slow lane is I’d be revving higher on a stock engine designed for lower rpm torque
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 02:54 PM
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Sure, which has to do what with this guy's combo?

My 96 dually 7.3/S5-47 does about 2500rpm at 70. 4.10:1. 245/75R16s. Yours was not made to cruise at high speeds. IDI and DI 7.3 have crap flowing heads, they need RPM for airflow to keep EGT down and power up.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 02:59 PM
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My experience with 285 and a 4:10 that I mentioned does I reckon
I’m stating my vote would be 4.10 is all. Enough for a 33” tire, no down shifting on hills
I did not have idi. I had a powerjoke. What I was trying to say was I didn’t like the higher rpm at my areas cruising speeds and in a half ton I don’t see it as necessary. In my 450 it was great for the heavy things I hauled and towed but I don’t see having anything higher than a 4.10 without much taller and heavier tires
 
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 07:43 PM
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302s are turds stock and even uncorked, let alone trying to move heavy *** wheels and tires. Height is not the only factor, sheer weight makes a huge difference

2200 at 70 is not screaming. It is allowing the 302 to nearly get up enough steam to get out of its own way. City econ will increase, freeway too.
 
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