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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 10:16 PM
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OBD1 to OBD2 adapter

Hey guys, is this the proper adapter for an OBD1 jack on a 1996 F-250 (non-Calif)?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11505922842...3ABFBMjv2_tJpk

I have an XTool D7 scan tool I'd like to try on this old truck.



 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:15 AM
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Looks like it is but I doubt it will help, there isn't any live data to see with most of these old pcms.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:45 AM
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Your scan tool needs to be able to read OBD1 software. I have a Zurich (Innova) scan tool that has that capability. It’s way better than counting flashes.
My Zurich never said that it did OBD1 but Innova made an adapter that fit and I took a chance and bought it.
It prompts you on the whole scan process.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:46 AM
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No there is no live data though.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 08:48 AM
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OBD-I does have live data capability. It is limited and typically requires a specialized reader.

The key is looking at the data link connector, C198, to verify it has the Data (+) and Data (-) pins. I believe this started in the early 90's and tended to vary based on the engine/trans combination.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
OBD-I does have live data capability. It is limited and typically requires a specialized reader.
I was going to say, I've got a Bosch reader from O'Reilly and it reads live data on my 92 F150.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 10:08 AM
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Well, howling hamsters, you learn all sorts of new things on the internets!

What sorts of data do the OBD1 trucks provide?

I've got the Innova code scanner, and haven't gone farther than reading trouble codes with it...

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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 10:40 AM
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The Innova/Equus 3145 code reader is just that...a code reader. No live data capability.

There are a few threads here related to what can be viewed and which scanner can display data.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 12:35 PM
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I'm going to get one and try it, unless you think my diagnostic tool may cause a problem inside the ECU. It can send commands.
 
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For the cost of that adapter it's worth a shot.
Is your truck MAF by chance? In my experience those PCMs provide more access, for example the basic Equus code reader can do a injector balance test but that was only possible because it was part of the PCMs built-in code. What you can access will be more limited than what can be done with a modern PCM, there is no flash memory in these things(because it hadn't been invented when these processors were designed) so you can't change anythng you will just be snooping on the computer... which is still beneficial for diagnostics of course.
 
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A New Generation Star scan tool
a NGS can pull trans codes from a 1995 and has live data PIDs as well as active command mode
 
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Ok, so just to confirm, I need a NGS tool for an OBS truck?
 
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Originally Posted by Trac
Ok, so just to confirm, I need a NGS tool for an OBS truck?
No....

If you can find one for a decent price, grab it.

Alternatives listed in this older thread: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...from-obd1.html
 
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I looked at the older forum post, some of the internet hyperlinks in the replies of that post do not work. I would be curious about one reply that mentions ForDiag from Czech. There is a cp9128 OBD-1 adapter cable kit available on Actron's website, similar to the cable sold at the Ebay link.

Diagnostic Equipment | Scan Tools & Code Readers | Auto Products (actron.com)

 
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Originally Posted by Trac
Ok, so just to confirm, I need a NGS tool for an OBS truck?
If you want to read pids or use active command mode then yes, you need a NGS
Your 1996 F250 with OBD1 will have a bunch of pids that can be read using the Ford scanner
I can run the wipers on a 95 Bronco with mine and your 1996 will have a few more capabilities / PIDS
Being able to check GEM pids is a big plus for me, your '96 F250 does not have a GEM
 
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