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Old Jul 10, 2024 | 10:13 PM
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I started working for a farmer this summer and one of his old grain trucks caught my eye and now I'm in love with it. It's a 1972 F-700 with a 361. Dream truck I'm so in love with it but it's a cabover and I knew there were packrats in the area. Yeah, packrats built a nest into the engine..... Got it all cleaned out for the most part but there's a lot of oil caked on there. Lots of wires are chewn through, and electricity is my weak spot by a long shot.

My first 'try' at it was to hook a battery up to it and try to crank it. I know that the engine is loose, it turned a little by hand and had compression. I turned the key, the solenoid rapid fire clicked, nothing happened. I had two different batteries and they both showed perfect so I know it's not a battery issue. Then, I tried to bypass the solenoid. I linked the sides of the solenoid and it made something under the cab click and that was it, some sparks when I brushed them, whatever.

I cleaned off all the contact points pretty fair I guess, but nothing worked. The starter had a ground cable coming off of it and linking to the frame? I really need help with it.

Maybe the single click sound was the resistor?? and the rapid clicking was the solenoid. Either way, we directly connected it to power and nothing budged.

Any help is greatly appreciated and I will hear everyone's opinion, just need answers because my heart is broken.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2024 | 01:57 AM
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Welcome to FTE!

Be prepared for more heartache.

You have a C700. Not an F700.

The C series shares nothing with the F series body wise. Thus, there is not a ready supply of parts like glass doors, weatherstrip etc, all of which are reproduced for the F series.

What kind of wheels are on it? (Clear pictures will help)

As to the clicking, if the engine is free, then it's low voltage, or poor connections, or a badly worn starter. Or a combination of those.

 
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Old Jul 11, 2024 | 01:23 PM
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Still need help

Thank you so much for the reply, it means a lot with how frustrated I am.

I have tried a few different things:

1. Disconnected the solenoid and touched the battery cable to the starter cable to no avail.

2. Cranked the key, heard the rapid clicking sound, then “jumped” the solenoid and a click from the underneath of the cab and the rapid clicking stopped. I can provide a video soon.

3. I linked and video of the rapid clicking when you try to crank the key.

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Old Jul 11, 2024 | 10:15 PM
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in my experience, the solenoid clicking is many times the battery, or cables or connections, just as 85e150said. however, for the price, a new solenoid is an inexpensive way to eliminate a potential problem, and so are new battery cables. battery cables can have corrosion run up the cable inside the insulation and not be easy to see.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2024 | 11:02 AM
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That solenoid sound: Bad connection (ground side, or positive side TO the solenoid, NOT a bad connection between the solenoid and the starter, don't bother looking), low battery, bad starter.

Never a siezed engine, never a bad solenoid.

The solenoid flutters because: it starts out having enough voltage at its coil to pull the contacts in ("click"), but as soon as those connect, the load on the starter side drags down the voltage below the solenoid's coil can hold the contacts closed, so they open ("click"). Load is removed, voltage soars back up, now the coil can pull the contacts closed again ("click"). Lather, rinse, repeat.

An awfully common noise on old Fords (and other makes that had a solenoid separate from the starter).

If you are certain that your batteries are really good, then your jumper cables aren't connecting as well as you think they are. Look at where you're connecting them.

 
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Old Jul 12, 2024 | 08:01 PM
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remove the starter and test it ,maybe spray the inside of it with brake clean and blow dry it with a air hose .
 
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