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Old Sep 18, 2024 | 10:49 PM
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Ok, I will look for it
 
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Old Sep 23, 2024 | 11:36 PM
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I didn't get an email from you about the OBD cable, STAR Tester Cable. (Self Test Automatic Readout). I can't PM anyone until I am a member for 10 days. Had to re-register because it's been a while.

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Old Sep 24, 2024 | 10:27 AM
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I'll try again, I sent one earlier this week. Maybe it got stuck in you spam filter? Thanks for following up.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 08:09 PM
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I got the cable that I bought from novispecial in the mail today. It was indeed the cable I was looking for. I now know the answer to the question can you use the ODBII cable with an ODB1 adapter to connect the NGS to an older ECU without the proper cable? The answer is no. The pins on the connector that go to the NGS unit itself are setup with totally unique pinouts. In order to make it work with the adapter cable, you'd have to be able to crimp a Stewart Compu-Shield 311515 connector OR have a cable that had all the correct pins needed going into the NGS connector already crimped in and then splice the connector in to the appropriate wires.

I did some quick digging, the connector is available brand new for about 15 bux a pop. The crimper is 320 bux a pop and the correct die to crimp the connector is another 327 bux. So all in, just to crimp a single connector it looks like you are at 657 dollars plus tax and shipping. If you knew someone that had the right crimper/dies then making your own is probably not beyond reach, but unless you know a LOT of people that are willing to chip in, fixing a broken cable or making net new ones is gonna have a hefty startup cost.

And now my favorite part. After searching several days a week on ebay for quite some time and coming up with NOTHING for the cable I needed that I bought from novispecial (thank you again for selling it to me), there are 2 of them for sale on ebay! I'm not at all mad about that, its just infuriating that when you are looking for something on ebay you can't find it and then after you get what you were looking for, it pops up on ebay and you are just like seriously?!?!?!? This is not the first time this has happened to me and I'm sure it won't be the last.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 09:43 PM
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I'm not sure if the green programming card will work on EEC IV, but maybe.

Some of the cables on eBay are for ABS, or the NGS XL for 2005 and later with CAN.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 09:50 PM
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Just checked eBay. no EEC IV cables, just ABS and OBD II ($125).
 
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Old Oct 1, 2024 | 10:35 AM
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Here they are, not well labeled which might be why I couldn't find them before:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/39543580191...Bk9SR9zN3tnIZA

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14480338911...Bk9SR97N3tnIZA

Seems like people think the compu-shield connector part number is the cable part number and don't really know how to describe these properly.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 11:42 AM
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I bought the fordiag hardware and software from cz

cost $100 and does live data logging if you have the data -/+ on the obd1 test connection
 
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 12:09 PM
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It would work great for ODBII stuff but I'm working on ODB1 as well. I don't think that software supports the older EEC-IV stuff.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty67
It would work great for ODBII stuff but I'm working on ODB1 as well. I don't think that software supports the older EEC-IV stuff.
it does, that’s why I bought it.

your eec-iv must have the chip I mentioned above and the data-/+ lines.

I use it on my eec-iv speed density obd1 1994 5.8
 
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 12:19 PM
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Oh interesting. I guess I'll need to use my superstar II tester on the older EEC-IV that doesn't have the extra chip on board.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 12:51 PM
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Or a paper clip, does the same thing.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 04:53 PM
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EEC IV NGS Cable on eBay

Great find. They Re mislabled. Maybe I will let them know.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 09:16 PM
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Out of curiosity, where has the Super Star II tester been sold online (or stores)?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 10:43 AM
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The SuperStar II is a long discontinued tool. The only way to get one is from a forum like this one or on eBay or maybe Craigslist.
 
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