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Old May 29, 2024 | 07:37 PM
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It passed my towing range test

It passed!

I wanted to figure out if I had the range to make the furthest ramp without having to recharge on the way back. 65 miles down and 75 back, and I made it home with 11% left. I went by myself because I didn’t want to find a trailer-friendly charger with a car load of kids. The fuel cost is almost nothing with our electrical rates vs. 10 MPG pulling with my Expedition.




 
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Old May 29, 2024 | 08:09 PM
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Probably didn't feel like you had anything hooked up to it. I remember the huge difference it made on my truck when I custom tuned it for the first time and headed for the boat launch, before that it always felt like I let the anchor drag while towing lol. Nice rig.
 
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Old May 29, 2024 | 08:41 PM
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Probably didn't feel like you had anything hooked up to it. I remember the huge difference it made on my truck when I custom tuned it for the first time and headed for the boat launch, before that it always felt like I let the anchor drag while towing lol. Nice rig.
This thing tows better than anything else I’ve seen. It’s the only truck I’ve used that tows like nothing is behind it. It flings this 5,300-lb trailer around like a wet dishrag.

I turned onto a 65 MPH divided highway a few miles from home with 14% in the tank. I kept up with the Ram 1500 in front of me who went WOT catching up with approaching traffic. This thing is faster with my boat than a couple of unloaded cars I’ve had.
 
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Nice report. I wonder if your result could be or would be the same on any given day with the same weather conditions.

I suppose it would within a small % or margin or error.
 
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Old May 29, 2024 | 10:28 PM
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Nice report. I wonder if your result could be or would be the same on any given day with the same weather conditions.

I suppose it would within a small % or margin or error.
It’s about as consistent as my ICE vehicles have been. My Expedition fluctuates between 9.5-10.5 towing this boat, and I’ve seen similar fluctuations with my Lightning empty and towing the camper. I settled into about 1.4 mi/kWh with the camper at 60, and I expect this to be about 1.2-1.3 depending on speed and conditions.

The surge brakes on the boat are a disadvantage, though. The IBC doesn’t activate the brakes on my other trailers unless I use the friction brakes with the brake pedal. I rarely use the friction brakes because of how strong regenerative braking is, which means I can recover 100% of the energy while stopping the camper. The surge brakes on the boat can’t be deactivated, so the trailer brakes are applied whenever I’m slowing down with regen, which wastes energy. There’s no way to tell how much, but there’s a noticeable difference between the wheel. I stop noticeably faster on regen with the boat than I do with the camper.
 
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Old May 30, 2024 | 04:12 AM
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It’s about as consistent as my ICE vehicles have been. My Expedition fluctuates between 9.5-10.5 towing this boat, and I’ve seen similar fluctuations with my Lightning empty and towing the camper. I settled into about 1.4 mi/kWh with the camper at 60, and I expect this to be about 1.2-1.3 depending on speed and conditions.

The surge brakes on the boat are a disadvantage, though. The IBC doesn’t activate the brakes on my other trailers unless I use the friction brakes with the brake pedal. I rarely use the friction brakes because of how strong regenerative braking is, which means I can recover 100% of the energy while stopping the camper. The surge brakes on the boat can’t be deactivated, so the trailer brakes are applied whenever I’m slowing down with regen, which wastes energy. There’s no way to tell how much, but there’s a noticeable difference between the wheel. I stop noticeably faster on regen with the boat than I do with the camper.
I hate surge brakes with a purple passion. Had one on a U Haul twin axle car carrier. Was helping my folx move back from Abilene Tx. when they retired. Drove one of their biggest trucks, 26' iirc, pulling their old 79 Ford LTD, when we hit that bridge on I-10 over the Louisiana swamps just this side of the state line, that damned thing beat the ever loving daylights out of me and backing up was a nightmare because the idiot attendant that hooked it all up forgot to give me the locking pin.

If I ever come across another trailer with those brakes, you can forget about me pulling it anywhere.

Or I'd use the locking pin the entire time.
 
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Old May 30, 2024 | 08:11 AM
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I hate surge brakes with a purple passion. Had one on a U Haul twin axle car carrier. Was helping my folx move back from Abilene Tx. when they retired. Drove one of their biggest trucks, 26' iirc, pulling their old 79 Ford LTD, when we hit that bridge on I-10 over the Louisiana swamps just this side of the state line, that damned thing beat the ever loving daylights out of me and backing up was a nightmare because the idiot attendant that hooked it all up forgot to give me the locking pin.

If I ever come across another trailer with those brakes, you can forget about me pulling it anywhere.

Or I'd use the locking pin the entire time.
I used to think that way after a couple U-Haul trailers with badly functioning brakes. That changed in 2011 when I bought my first boat trailer with them. 13 years and 30,000 miles later, I think they’re great!

Both trailers have had UFP disc brakes with a bypass solenoid wired to the reverse circuit. They’re strong enough to make it impossible to back without the reverse wire; you’ll spin the wheels of the truck before the trailer moves. My new trailer only has brakes on the trailing axle, but the brakes are strong enough that you’d never know it from the drive. The trailing axle is forced downward on braking because of how the equalizer works.

I once pulled this boat behind my Model Y, and I never found the limit of how fast I could stop. I got worried about ripping the hitch off, so I didn’t pull it again.


 
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^^^^ That's a good looking car with that color and wheels combo.
 
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I used to think that way after a couple U-Haul trailers with badly functioning brakes. That changed in 2011 when I bought my first boat trailer with them. 13 years and 30,000 miles later, I think they’re great!

Both trailers have had UFP disc brakes with a bypass solenoid wired to the reverse circuit. They’re strong enough to make it impossible to back without the reverse wire; you’ll spin the wheels of the truck before the trailer moves. My new trailer only has brakes on the trailing axle, but the brakes are strong enough that you’d never know it from the drive. The trailing axle is forced downward on braking because of how the equalizer works.

I once pulled this boat behind my Model Y, and I never found the limit of how fast I could stop. I got worried about ripping the hitch off, so I didn’t pull it again.

Ahh, they've improved the design. That uhaul I pulled, no telling how old it was then and that was about 25 years ago or so.
 
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Old May 31, 2024 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
^^^^ That's a good looking car with that color and wheels combo.
My Y iit identical, with the same wheels and same color combo.

Heres a picture with my Mini Golden Doodle riding shotgun. 🐕‍🦺





 
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Old May 31, 2024 | 01:43 PM
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My Y iit identical, with the same wheels and same color combo.

Heres a picture with my Mini Golden Doodle riding shotgun. 🐕‍🦺



Looks like a jewel...
 
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