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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 02:02 PM
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First time I thought about that fact that we dont have separate AC fans...
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 04:37 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 04:44 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex2002
Brandon,

Thanks for your thoughts. I didnt test equalization...but I will.

It happens when Im on the move or idling. It randomly stops blowing then starts again minutes later

Why did you have no fan on your truck????? I only have the huge clutch activated fan. I dont believe I ever seen a separate AC fan come to think of it.
So AC stops throwing out cold or no air comes out the vents?

If it just stops throwing cold good chance it's the compressor clutch is disengaging, removal of shim might potentially work.

If no air out vents, check for vacuum leaks also if your truck is equipped with the automatic locking hubs and use 4x4 your and have leaks the AC will default to defrost.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 04:59 PM
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Air blows but suddenly goes to ambient temp. Praying for a simple clutch fix. Waiting on ECU to comeback from repair so I can try it.

I have manual locks...wish I had automatic units...I hate getting out to lock dem hubbies.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2024 | 06:03 PM
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Idk, when you know you gotta lock'em in you tend to plan for it and pick somewhere clean and convenient to do it. The autos always seem to pop a vacuum leak in about the deepest nasty hole you could find.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 01:36 AM
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The PCM doesn't have control over the compressor.

Given the symptoms listed, either the clutch air gap is too wide or the terminals in the high pressure switch (by the oil dipstick) are fried.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 02:27 AM
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The PCM doesn't have control over the compressor.

Given the symptoms listed, either the clutch air gap is too wide or the terminals in the high pressure switch (by the oil dipstick) are fried.
Then what kicks the AC off when the engine starts getting too warm? I've seen it happen on a friend's 99 SD pulling a Aload through rolling hills at lowish rpm's. If it wasn't the PCM stepping in to shut down non essentials then any ideas what might cause it?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
The PCM doesn't have control over the compressor.

Given the symptoms listed, either the clutch air gap is too wide or the terminals in the high pressure switch (by the oil dipstick) are fried.
I need it to start the truck.....
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex2002
I'd rather not...
Why not?
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 01:22 PM
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Then what kicks the AC off when the engine starts getting too warm? I've seen it happen on a friend's 99 SD pulling a Aload through rolling hills at lowish rpm's. If it wasn't the PCM stepping in to shut down non essentials then any ideas what might cause it?
The PCM has an INPUT for the compressor clutch so it knows when to bump the idle slightly but has no bearing whether the AC is commanded based on a PCM command.

The only things dictating compressor clutch operation on a 1999-01 7.3L are the low pressure switch on the accumulator side, the high pressure switch on the compressor discharge side, and the fuse/mode selector switch. Anything temperature related would be caused by high refrigerant pressure (hot condenser), compressor clutch coil high resistance, or bad terminals in the high pressure switch.


Oh, and I lied. Starting in 02, the PCM does have control over the compressor. It still uses the same high and low pressure switches but they are PCM inputs and the brain makes the determination based on those. However, the chances of the PCM losing ability to run the compressor relay are pretty slim and I wouldn't start there with diagnosis.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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Air blows but suddenly goes to ambient temp. Praying for a simple clutch fix. Waiting on ECU to comeback from repair so I can try it.

I have manual locks...wish I had automatic units...I hate getting out to lock dem hubbies.
I'd start there. It can be repaired or replaced without messing with the closed system. Adding oz's of refrigerant ***** nilly with one of those recharge cans is not usually a good idea, and your pressures don't look low. Especially if it's been a long time since the system was serviced I would not suspect you have a leak issue.

I've ran around without the fan for awhile on a couple of occasions but it's not advisable. #1 the A/C wont work while parked or moving slowly and #2 the motor will get too hot if you start asking it to do anything harder than putt down the road unloaded. Not watching oil temp with a PID monitor would be a no-no.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 06:24 PM
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Are those pushing from the front or pulling from behind?

Money no object I'd rather have a Horton clutch on a rocker switch in the cab. I drove a Kenworth a couple times that had that and thought it was cool (hah...) being able to control the fan manually. It would actually help engine braking going down a hill too.

But TBH back when my A/C still functioned and the condenser and fan clutch was brand new, it blew pretty damn cold while parked with no special mods or massages to boost performance. If it keeps one of those blue shop paper towels sucked up against the condenser it's getting plenty of airflow from the fan.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 07:11 PM
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Are those pushing from the front or pulling from behind?
They push from the front. There is not enough room between the condensor and intercooler for fans.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
They push from the front. There is not enough room between the condensor and intercooler for fans.
Fans do NOT push air worth a damn.
they MUST be on the back side, to pull air through the fins....

I tried that on my Suburban with an extra ATF cooler, in Suction Mode, the fan pulled air like gang buster. but it won't fit snug against the AC condenser, so I reversed the Polarity, and turned it around. didn't work worth a damn, barely pushed any air through at all.
 
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