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Old May 13, 2024 | 01:00 PM
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Driveshaft U-joint Question

Do the caps on new u-joints have to be pounded into the yoke?

Thank you - Thomas
 
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Old May 13, 2024 | 02:33 PM
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On my 86' F150 looks like snap rings hold them in.


 
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On my 86' F150 looks like snap rings hold them in.

But when I replaced them with new ones.

Do the two caps have to be pounded in or do they just slide in real nice into the yoke?

(I had to pound mine in with a socket of similar size)
 
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Old May 13, 2024 | 02:46 PM
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IDK, I have not had to replace mine.
Mine is a F150, is yours a F250 ? You can add that info to your "Signature" like some of us have.
 
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Looks like yes, they need some help to seat them on the yoke. I haven't done this job since the late 1970s.
 
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Old May 13, 2024 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jack6109518
But when I replaced them with new ones.

Do the two caps have to be pounded in or do they just slide in real nice into the yoke?

(I had to pound mine in with a socket of similar size)
It's best to press them in with a vise or a press. You can drive them in like you did, and if the clips went in you were successful. If you have a hard time or can't get the clips in place, most likely one of the bearing needles got dislodged when you were driving them in. You can take them apart and start over if this happens to someone.

P.S. The further you get them to slide in, the less chance a bearing needle will fall out. Once you are almost there, tapping on them will usually not knock a bearing needle out of place.
 
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It's best to press them in with a vise or a press. You can drive them in like you did, and if the clips went in you were successful. If you have a hard time or can't get the clips in place, most likely one of the bearing needles got dislodged when you were driving them in. You can take them apart and start over if this happens to someone.

P.S. The further you get them to slide in, the less chance a bearing needle will fall out. Once you are almost there, tapping on them will usually not knock a bearing needle out of place.
10-4. Thank you!

I also found out if I pound them in too far, even just a touch too far, they get hard to turn. So I had to pound them out and start over and go very slowly.

Thank you - Thomas
 
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Old May 13, 2024 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
It's best to press them in with a vise or a press.

P.S. The further you get them to slide in, the less chance a bearing needle will fall out. Once you are almost there, tapping on them will usually not knock a bearing needle out of place.
I second pressing as much as possible. I did a replacement once in my youth and was shocked, SHOCKED I say, when I had a bearing sized dimple in the top of the cap when I tried to replace the snap rings. Needless to say I learned to be a little less poundy when a little patience gets it done.
If and when I have to do them again I will do some wire brushings and light sanding, and add a smidgin of grease and a C-clamp to press mine in, at least as much as possible.
 
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I have tried a c-clamp, it never worked for me. The threads are too coarse. A balljoint press may work. The caps are a little tough to install sometimes.

The trick I have found is to pull all the caps off. Put the empty cross inside the driveshaft, and then get one cap started. If you are driving the cap in, hold the cross over so it goes into the cap you are installing as much as possible so the cross will hold the needles in place. Push that cap on in while holding the cross inside it. Once you get that cap installed, start the other one and like before, shift the cross over and hold it up in the cap you are installing to help hold the needles in place.
 
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Originally Posted by jack6109518
10-4. Thank you!

I also found out if I pound them in too far, even just a touch too far, they get hard to turn. So I had to pound them out and start over and go very slowly.

Thank you - Thomas
If you have it together and the clips, inners or outters, in place you can take a hammer and give a few taps on the yoke on either side and it will center the caps and it should move freely.
That is if a needle did not fall out of place.

We use smaller joints on a drive shaft that goes from my tractor (18 wheeler) to a pump on the LP trailer and they go bad all the time.
The shop knows I can change them out if I have the parts so I have a spare in the cab.
I also have a extra shaft if the joint goes bad when pumping off 10,000 gallons of LP and yes I have had 1 go bad while pumping off.
Dave ----
 
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