F-450 Trim / Options feedback
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F-450 Trim / Options feedback
New member here looking at ordering an F-450 later this year.
Purchased a new Fifthwheel (Northpoint 382flrb) and she's a bit of a pig at 44' long and likely > 16k loaded.
The pin weight will be a bit higher than my current '21 3500 Ram CC LB SRW truck can (or should) handle.
Now that I'm going to a dually, the tighter turn radius of the F-450 feels like a no-brainer.
SO.... though I'll likely be ordering a '25, I'm looking at the '24 ordering options for reference:
Current Thoughts (Build sheet attached for reference):
F-450 Platinum in Carbonized Gray Metallic
Options:
After adding so many options, I took a look at the limited (build sheet attached)... adding the same options, the Limited is $110k
I don't see the $8k value in these differences? So far as I can tell, you get a better headliner (don't really care about that), the moonroof (I generally pass on those due to leak phobia) and 2KW power on-board (This would be nice, but I can add an inverter if I needed to).
What am I missing?
What options should I reconsider?
Is the Limited worth the $8k premium
I know this is all subjective, but folks here have experience
Purchased a new Fifthwheel (Northpoint 382flrb) and she's a bit of a pig at 44' long and likely > 16k loaded.
The pin weight will be a bit higher than my current '21 3500 Ram CC LB SRW truck can (or should) handle.
Now that I'm going to a dually, the tighter turn radius of the F-450 feels like a no-brainer.
SO.... though I'll likely be ordering a '25, I'm looking at the '24 ordering options for reference:
Current Thoughts (Build sheet attached for reference):
F-450 Platinum in Carbonized Gray Metallic
Options:
- HO Diesel
- Snow plow prep
- FX4
- Hard folding tonneau
- tough bed (liner)
- front wheel well liner
- retraceable bed step
- Block heater
- All weather floor mats
- Max recline seats
- Console safe
After adding so many options, I took a look at the limited (build sheet attached)... adding the same options, the Limited is $110k
I don't see the $8k value in these differences? So far as I can tell, you get a better headliner (don't really care about that), the moonroof (I generally pass on those due to leak phobia) and 2KW power on-board (This would be nice, but I can add an inverter if I needed to).
What am I missing?
What options should I reconsider?
Is the Limited worth the $8k premium
I know this is all subjective, but folks here have experience
Cargo Master
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I see some stuff that really doesn't seem to be really needed. It's your truck in the end.
Console safe....yea, I get it. I use my console so a lock/locking device just gets in the way.
Hard folding tonneau...Okay you got a 5th wheel. So you want to lock up/protect stuff when not hooked to the trailer. I'd pass myself.
tough bed (liner)..I prefer Line-X myself.
retraceable bed step...I'd get the one for the side, but if you need help getting over the tailgate why not just drop the gate use the tailgate step??
Suggestions:
Ford Pro Upfit Integration System...Might be worth it for anything you need to add on to the truck in the future.
Rapid-Heat Supplemental Cab Heater...can help if you end up in an area with colder temps for a little help getting the interior warm.
Moonroof (Twin Panel)...I understand your concerns. For me I LOVE the huge opening for better light inside the cab. Pretty cool at night as well.
FYI : Once you are into the LR/Platinum/Limited trim levels it's all about forced options/packages and the interior trim/upholstery. So those $$$$ changes are driven by a few different things.
Good luck with your final decision. It's going to be a great truck!!
Console safe....yea, I get it. I use my console so a lock/locking device just gets in the way.
Hard folding tonneau...Okay you got a 5th wheel. So you want to lock up/protect stuff when not hooked to the trailer. I'd pass myself.
tough bed (liner)..I prefer Line-X myself.
retraceable bed step...I'd get the one for the side, but if you need help getting over the tailgate why not just drop the gate use the tailgate step??
Suggestions:
Ford Pro Upfit Integration System...Might be worth it for anything you need to add on to the truck in the future.
Rapid-Heat Supplemental Cab Heater...can help if you end up in an area with colder temps for a little help getting the interior warm.
Moonroof (Twin Panel)...I understand your concerns. For me I LOVE the huge opening for better light inside the cab. Pretty cool at night as well.
FYI : Once you are into the LR/Platinum/Limited trim levels it's all about forced options/packages and the interior trim/upholstery. So those $$$$ changes are driven by a few different things.
Good luck with your final decision. It's going to be a great truck!!
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From: Stephensville WI
6.7L HO. OK if you want it, but the standard output 6.7L PSD will handle your 5th wheel no problem.
Camper certification- comes with a rear stabilizer bar.
FX-4 package - comes with skid plates and AT tires. Might be worthwhile, depending on where you intend on taking the truck.
Moon roof - I agree with you. I've had them on a few cars and never used them. Just a leak waiting to happen.
Camper certification- comes with a rear stabilizer bar.
FX-4 package - comes with skid plates and AT tires. Might be worthwhile, depending on where you intend on taking the truck.
Moon roof - I agree with you. I've had them on a few cars and never used them. Just a leak waiting to happen.
Mountain Pass
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the supplemental cab heater comes with the snow plow prep package, so his build has that
if you don't care about the 2kw onboard, and can live without massaging seats (multicontour), reflective LED headlights instead of projector LED, and Halogen/LED taillights instead of LED/LED .... then that exact build in a Lariat Ultimate is $93,740
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the supplemental cab heater comes with the snow plow prep package, so his build has that
if you don't care about the 2kw onboard, and can live without massaging seats (multicontour), reflective LED headlights instead of projector LED, and Halogen/LED taillights instead of LED/LED .... then that exact build in a Lariat Ultimate is $93,740
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Lead Driver
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Ditch the HO and save $2500. You wont need it or even notice it, the SO has more power than you will ever need. Unless you plan to go off roading in a massive DRW, the FX4 can be skipped, the downhill assist can be added with Forscan and a switch. Add the camper package though, gives you more options for use.
Lead Driver
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The Limited pkg doesn't sound like it's for you, so that's an easy decision. I don't think the snow plow prep does anything to an F-450. Some are suggesting the camper pkg, but on the 450 all that gives you is a camper certification.
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Fleet Mechanic
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1st world problems, right? Struggling between a platinum and a limited. No, I get it. I'd go platinum all-the-way. Sounds like you've built the one you want. Carry on!
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It has different springs on the front to support the weight of the plow. This will result in a rougher ride (my 2020 has the package, even though I don't plow with it--I got it used).
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Laughing Gas
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Snow plow prep or camper package haven't added anything mechanically to the F-450 in the past other than paper saying they are certified. Already come with the max front end springs offered for a pickup and the sway bar is standard too.
I see you have a block heater spec'ed. If you plan to operate in the cold I'd add the rapid cab heater too.
I would re-consider dropping the HO engine in a F-450. They are already geared down to a 4:30 ratio so the standard 6.7 engine has plenty of power to tow. I have the older generation in my 2017 with less power and torque and haven't wished it had more yet. Too early to tell if the HO is more or less durable than the standard configuration.
Consider adding the upfitter switches if you have any hint of plans to add any kind of accessory lighting or something in the bed that would need 12V power. Puts the switches in the cab and has fused/relayed wires under the hood for easy access.
I see you have a block heater spec'ed. If you plan to operate in the cold I'd add the rapid cab heater too.
I would re-consider dropping the HO engine in a F-450. They are already geared down to a 4:30 ratio so the standard 6.7 engine has plenty of power to tow. I have the older generation in my 2017 with less power and torque and haven't wished it had more yet. Too early to tell if the HO is more or less durable than the standard configuration.
Consider adding the upfitter switches if you have any hint of plans to add any kind of accessory lighting or something in the bed that would need 12V power. Puts the switches in the cab and has fused/relayed wires under the hood for easy access.
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Snow plow prep or camper package haven't added anything mechanically to the F-450 in the past other than paper saying they are certified. Already come with the max front end springs offered for a pickup and the sway bar is standard too.
I see you have a block heater spec'ed. If you plan to operate in the cold I'd add the rapid cab heater too.
I would re-consider dropping the HO engine in a F-450. They are already geared down to a 4:30 ratio so the standard 6.7 engine has plenty of power to tow. I have the older generation in my 2017 with less power and torque and haven't wished it had more yet. Too early to tell if the HO is more or less durable than the standard configuration.
I see you have a block heater spec'ed. If you plan to operate in the cold I'd add the rapid cab heater too.
I would re-consider dropping the HO engine in a F-450. They are already geared down to a 4:30 ratio so the standard 6.7 engine has plenty of power to tow. I have the older generation in my 2017 with less power and torque and haven't wished it had more yet. Too early to tell if the HO is more or less durable than the standard configuration.
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New member here looking at ordering an F-450 later this year.
Purchased a new Fifthwheel (Northpoint 382flrb) and she's a bit of a pig at 44' long and likely > 16k loaded.
The pin weight will be a bit higher than my current '21 3500 Ram CC LB SRW truck can (or should) handle.
Now that I'm going to a dually, the tighter turn radius of the F-450 feels like a no-brainer.
SO.... though I'll likely be ordering a '25, I'm looking at the '24 ordering options for reference:
Current Thoughts (Build sheet attached for reference):
F-450 Platinum in Carbonized Gray Metallic
Options:
After adding so many options, I took a look at the limited (build sheet attached)... adding the same options, the Limited is $110k
I don't see the $8k value in these differences? So far as I can tell, you get a better headliner (don't really care about that), the moonroof (I generally pass on those due to leak phobia) and 2KW power on-board (This would be nice, but I can add an inverter if I needed to).
What am I missing?
What options should I reconsider?
Is the Limited worth the $8k premium
I know this is all subjective, but folks here have experience
Purchased a new Fifthwheel (Northpoint 382flrb) and she's a bit of a pig at 44' long and likely > 16k loaded.
The pin weight will be a bit higher than my current '21 3500 Ram CC LB SRW truck can (or should) handle.
Now that I'm going to a dually, the tighter turn radius of the F-450 feels like a no-brainer.
SO.... though I'll likely be ordering a '25, I'm looking at the '24 ordering options for reference:
Current Thoughts (Build sheet attached for reference):
F-450 Platinum in Carbonized Gray Metallic
Options:
- HO Diesel
- Snow plow prep
- FX4
- Hard folding tonneau
- tough bed (liner)
- front wheel well liner
- retraceable bed step
- Block heater
- All weather floor mats
- Max recline seats
- Console safe
After adding so many options, I took a look at the limited (build sheet attached)... adding the same options, the Limited is $110k
I don't see the $8k value in these differences? So far as I can tell, you get a better headliner (don't really care about that), the moonroof (I generally pass on those due to leak phobia) and 2KW power on-board (This would be nice, but I can add an inverter if I needed to).
What am I missing?
What options should I reconsider?
Is the Limited worth the $8k premium
I know this is all subjective, but folks here have experience
- HO Diesel (Save the $2,500, the standard 6.7 is more than enough)
- Snow plow prep
- FX4 (save the $495, not worth it)
- Hard folding tonneau (get it later, install yourself)
- tough bed (liner)
- front wheel well liner
- retraceable bed step
- Block heater
- All weather floor mats
- Max recline seats
- Console safe (5 minute install yourself. I bought mine off eBay from a take off for $200 instead of $400)
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2018
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Give a rats *** about the HO, I've got one (forced) in my Tremor package.
I've owned 19 SD since 99, in every possible possible trim level with the exception of The limited.... I see no attraction to it.
I actually have no attraction to the f-450. I think the F-350 is a better option with the exception of the steering. I would spend the money to upgrade the trailer to electric over hydraulic disc brakes. You would amazed on how fast such a large mass can stop.
I've plowed snow for 22 years, some had prep, others not. I see no need for it on 450. I used to run a 11'2 blade on a F250.
I've owned 19 SD since 99, in every possible possible trim level with the exception of The limited.... I see no attraction to it.
I actually have no attraction to the f-450. I think the F-350 is a better option with the exception of the steering. I would spend the money to upgrade the trailer to electric over hydraulic disc brakes. You would amazed on how fast such a large mass can stop.
I've plowed snow for 22 years, some had prep, others not. I see no need for it on 450. I used to run a 11'2 blade on a F250.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,533
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From: West Michigan
I just took delivery of my '24 F350. I also pull a 5th wheel. One item I'm extremely pleased with is a hard rollback tonneau, instead of a folding one. I got the Ford version of the Leer which is a pace-edwards electric tonneau. Expensive yes at $3k, but not in the way when towing. Goes through the carwash no leaks.