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Old May 6, 2024 | 02:03 AM
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HPOP - T500 vs Adrenaline

I have a stock pump with 205/30’s paired with Kc300x Stage 2

Which pump is better and will last me longer in the long run? Don’t want a pump that will go out on me later on. I see the Terminator T500 is a lot cheaper

Also how much a difference will you feel going from a stock pump?
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 05:46 AM
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Are you having issues maintaining icp with your current stock hpop? The small hybrids are fairly low demand on hpo volume.

I have a cncfab stage 2 with my 200/30 and at full tilt/empty of injectors I do not think I have even hit %40 duty cycle
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 05:59 AM
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Having had personal experience with both the T500 and Adrenaline HPOPs, I can recommend NEITHER of them. Go with a CNC Fab HPOP.
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 07:15 AM
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New stock pump?
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 07:21 AM
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I recently installed a CNC Fab Stage 2 HPOP....no complaints.
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Having had personal experience with both the T500 and Adrenaline HPOPs, I can recommend NEITHER of them.
Can you please elaborate as to why, for each pump?
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 02:51 PM
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T800 is closer to an Adrenaline than a T500 iirc
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Can you please elaborate as to why, for each pump?
My factory HPOP failed quite soon after I first purchased the truck. After going through some research similar to what the OP is doing here, I decided on the Adrenaline. The first one lasted 37,979 miles and just under two years. It was rebuilt by DieselSite and the second time it lasted 31,287 miles and just under a year and a half. The truck was out of service for two months each time because of Adrenaline availability. DieselSite offered to rebuild the pump a second time but I had had enough and used it as a core to purchase a T500 through RiffRaff instead. The T500 lasted 72,689 miles and just under 4 years. When I tried to contact Terminator I was ghosted. Not even Clay at RiffRaff could get hold of Joey. I needed the truck running and CNC Fab had just come to market with their pump. This pump is currently at 8 years and counting.
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
This pump is currently at 8 years and counting.
How many miles on the current 8 year and counting pump?


Revisiting the four (4) HPOP failures (in other words, lots of personal experience) that you have had previously...

1. Was there any commonality in the symptoms you encountered immediately prior to or as the pump was failing? Or did you experience different symptoms in the failure of one pump versus another?

2. Was there any commonality in individual sub-component wear or breakage between any of the pumps (if you did any diagnoses or disassembly) ?

3. Now that you have experienced multiple failures, what are some of the signs and symptoms that you would advise readers to pay attention to, that could portend or evidence a pending HPOP failure?

 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
How many miles on the current 8 year and counting pump?


Revisiting the four (4) HPOP failures (in other words, lots of personal experience) that you have had previously...
I am not near the truck right now so I am unable to give you a number. I will upon my return stateside.

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1. Was there any commonality in the symptoms you encountered immediately prior to or as the pump was failing? Or did you experience different symptoms in the failure of one pump versus another?
Yes. IPR duty cycle kept climbing while ICP kept falling. The progression from start of failure to total failure was quite rapid unfortunately. About all I was able to do each time I noticed imminent failure was to pull over to the side of the highway safely before the engine stopped running.

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2. Was there any commonality in individual sub-component wear or breakage between any of the pumps (if you did any diagnoses or disassembly) ?
In the case of the Adrenalines, the cylinder barrel had spun on the input shaft. I found that odd since DieselSite claims to pin those parts together on their Adrenalines. I forget what happened to the T500.

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3. Now that you have experienced multiple failures, what are some of the signs and symptoms that you would advise readers to pay attention to, that could portend or evidence a pending HPOP failure?
Keep an eagle eye on your IPR duty cycle vs ICP. These two parameters are permanently displayed on my Scangauge II which is placed smack in my line of sight as I drive.
 
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Old May 7, 2024 | 07:37 AM
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I have right at 90,000 miles on my CNC fab stage two pump no problems with my 200/200 injectors I don’t think I’ve ever seen more than 40% duty cycle
 
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Old May 8, 2024 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ESwift
Are you having issues maintaining icp with your current stock hpop? The small hybrids are fairly low demand on hpo volume.

I have a cncfab stage 2 with my 200/30 and at full tilt/empty of injectors I do not think I have even hit %40 duty cycle
Having really checked icp readings. If the stock pump is fine then there is no need

I’m just in the boat of replacing it because my truck has 400K miles and the pump has became very leaky
 
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Old May 8, 2024 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
My factory HPOP failed quite soon after I first purchased the truck. After going through some research similar to what the OP is doing here, I decided on the Adrenaline. The first one lasted 37,979 miles and just under two years. It was rebuilt by DieselSite and the second time it lasted 31,287 miles and just under a year and a half. The truck was out of service for two months each time because of Adrenaline availability. DieselSite offered to rebuild the pump a second time but I had had enough and used it as a core to purchase a T500 through RiffRaff instead. The T500 lasted 72,689 miles and just under 4 years. When I tried to contact Terminator I was ghosted. Not even Clay at RiffRaff could get hold of Joey. I needed the truck running and CNC Fab had just come to market with their pump. This pump is currently at 8 years and counting.
Im assuming CNC Fab has a good rep. Gonna look into them more.

My stock pump is becoming very leaky and hasn’t been replaced (400k miles). Was think a new stock pump or upgraded pump
 
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Old May 8, 2024 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Having had personal experience with both the T500 and Adrenaline HPOPs, I can recommend NEITHER of them. Go with a CNC Fab HPOP.
How do you think the stage 1 hpop will hold up with 205/30’s?
 
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Old May 8, 2024 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexis Garcia
How do you think the stage 1 hpop will hold up with 205/30’s?
Their Stage 1 pump has kept up with my 205/80s very well.
 
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