Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

4x4

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 20, 2024 | 09:44 PM
  #1  
Davidwillis's Avatar
Davidwillis
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
4x4

Hey fellas I just bought a 1997 Ford F250 HD with automatic four-wheel drive. What do I need to know about this system any weaknesses or particular maintenance issues for example. Thank you
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 09:52 AM
  #2  
manicmechanic007's Avatar
manicmechanic007
Lead Driver
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 9,918
Likes: 2,439
From: Near Salt Lake City
Club FTE Silver Member

The automatic trans
You have a 7,5 or a 5.8?
Either way do a 30k service now. Means all the fluids and all the filters, lube the door hinges and window felts
Use the special mini vent lube on the window felts
Replace the oil filter adapter o ring
Pull both drivelines and lube the slip yole splines with the special teflon driveline grease
Pack the 4x4 hubs, wheel bearings and the spindle bearings behind the spindles
If Automatic hubs, use the special auto hub grease in the hub part
Nice truck, one of the best made IMO
Have fun with it
Use all the NOS Ford parts you can find for it
Find a Motorcraft stator for your distributor now
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 09:54 AM
  #3  
Davidwillis's Avatar
Davidwillis
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
5.8 thanks , 135k miles
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 01:00 PM
  #4  
JJF20's Avatar
JJF20
Hotshot
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 17,195
Likes: 2,728
From: Northern Ontario
Are you talking about the 4 wheel drive system alone? Some of this is tied into the TTB. I’m going to assume you have the Dana 50.

It’s a fairly simple system. BW 44-07 transfer case, Dana 50 TTB. You can confirm the D50, “50” will be embossed on the bottom of the diff.

U joints, you should have x5 total. 3 in the front axle shafts, and two in the drive shaft. Make sure they are lubed and move freely. They may have been changed out at some point with non greaseable, not much you can do to lube those. If changing them out, the RH inner ujoint needs a tool, or remove the differential. I’ve never used it, but there is what’s called the ‘Tiger Tool’ for replacing that joint.

Change / check the fluid in the transfer case.

Check the front differential oil. It does not have a drain, so two options. Use a suction pump to remove as much oil as you can, or remove the differential carrier. Removing is doable, just more involved, but will allow access to cleaning the diff and replacing the axle seals. Is it leaking now? If you do remove, I made a set of guide pins from bolts with the heads cut off to help reinstall when the time comes. If you getting in that far, I’d suggest looking into the steering, ball joints, etc… slippery slope.

When going that far, if original the pivot bushings are probably sagging at this point. If you’re doing the rest, it’s a good time to change them out.

As far as hubs and wheel bearings, disassemble and go through them. New hub/wheel seals are a good idea, and inspect clean/repack/replace the wheel bearings. Hublocks, same thing - disassemble clean and a light grease in them. Don’t forget the spindle bearings too. If removing the spindles have new spindle nuts on hand, and be careful working around the knuckle with the spindle studs, careful not to damage them.

Im assuming by ‘automatic 4 wheel drive’ you have auto hubs. You will need a hub wrench/socket for those hub nuts specifically (manual hub locks use a different type of socket). You can look on torque king web site for the socket (it’s for sale in multiple places). It’ll have rounded corners to fit inside the hub 2 3/4” - performance tool W83246 - I’ll post a pic. You will also need a set of good snap ring pliers to remove the outer axle snap ring and thrust washers.

The shifter for the transfer case can get stiff to move. There are plastic bushings that get washed out and dry up. As long as the bushings haven’t been worn out, you can remove, disassemble, clean up / grease and re assemble.

Im sure I’m forgetting something, but it’s all straightforward. I’d suggest picking up a Haynes manual, or FSM on CD or a set of paper manuals off eBay. Lots of threads on here and other sites for going through the ttb you can read up on before you get into it.

Good luck with it. Post up any questions.




 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 02:23 PM
  #5  
Truckie256's Avatar
Truckie256
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 93
What transfer case fluid is used? I saw another thread that said Mercon, but that was changed to MerconV, ( stopped making Mercon??) but reports of t-case issues, so Ford went to IG-8??? I think it said??(Which was just relabeled Mercon) but stopped that now too.
thread suggested Dex/Merc???
Just curious, as I have to do most of the stuff mentioned above.
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 02:42 PM
  #6  
JJF20's Avatar
JJF20
Hotshot
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 17,195
Likes: 2,728
From: Northern Ontario
Mercon originally, it’s discontinued.
XL-12 was the next recommended fluid, it’s discontinued.
Mercon LV is what Ford recommends now.
Mercon V is what some are using with no issues. But is not recommended by Ford.

Other using various brands of tx case fluid.

I normally go with oem recommendations, but in this case, it’s a chain gear box, I don’t think it’s that critical. Ymmv.

Next time I change mine, I’ll use Mercon V for simplicity.
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 03:14 PM
  #7  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,223
Likes: 5,405
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
should be 6 universal joints. 2 axle joints in front axle.
2 in front driveshaft, and 2 in rear driveshaft.
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 03:25 PM
  #8  
JJF20's Avatar
JJF20
Hotshot
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 17,195
Likes: 2,728
From: Northern Ontario
I think you have a solid axle on your mind Tom..

Assuming it is stock, he has the TTB.
X2 front drive shaft.
x3 front axle shafts. Rh axle shaft x2 - inner and outer. Lh x1 - outer.


This excludes the rear driveshaft. He was only asking about ‘4x4’ so I didn’t expand past the front end…
 
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2024 | 03:27 PM
  #9  
Truckie256's Avatar
Truckie256
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,304
Likes: 93
Originally Posted by JJF20
Mercon originally, it’s discontinued.
XL-12 was the next recommended fluid, it’s discontinued.
Mercon LV is what Ford recommends now.
Mercon V is what some are using with no issues. But is not recommended by Ford.

Other using various brands of tx case fluid.

I normally go with oem recommendations, but in this case, it’s a chain gear box, I don’t think it’s that critical. Ymmv.

Next time I change mine, I’ll use Mercon V for simplicity.
Thanks, I actually have Mercon LV at the house already... sounds like I have a quick project for tomorrow.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2024 | 10:04 AM
  #10  
Davidwillis's Avatar
Davidwillis
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
Workshop manual

So now I understand I have this oddball kind of hybrid 1997 Ford f250 HD that there seems to be a lot of confusion about it. I'm looking online for workshop manuals, which do you guys recommend? I need a specific recommendation please there seems to be a lot of overlap in the manuals and I'm not sure which one is the most applicable. Thanks
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2024 | 12:22 PM
  #11  
My4Fordtrucks's Avatar
My4Fordtrucks
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 12,587
Likes: 2,361
Originally Posted by Davidwillis
So now I understand I have this oddball kind of hybrid 1997 Ford f250 HD that there seems to be a lot of confusion about it. I'm looking online for workshop manuals, which do you guys recommend? I need a specific recommendation please there seems to be a lot of overlap in the manuals and I'm not sure which one is the most applicable. Thanks
What do you mean? There is nothing oddball about it. It is the same as a 1996 F-250 HD.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2024 | 12:35 PM
  #12  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,223
Likes: 5,405
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Davidwillis
So now I understand I have this oddball kind of hybrid 1997 Ford f250 HD that there seems to be a lot of confusion about it. I'm looking online for workshop manuals, which do you guys recommend? I need a specific recommendation please there seems to be a lot of overlap in the manuals and I'm not sure which one is the most applicable. Thanks
there is nothing odball or hybrid about your truck, you just have a plain old 97 F-250 HD.
when ordering parts tell them you have a 96 F-250 and there will not be any confusion. the problem comes when the parts store counter monkey types "97 F250" into the computer and it spits out part numbers for the new light duty truck.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2024 | 02:18 PM
  #13  
Davidwillis's Avatar
Davidwillis
Thread Starter
|
5th Wheeling
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
Thanks fellas I didn't mean to be disrespectful to my little Ford I like it a lot I'm just finding that there were some interesting things about it because it was a transition year and there is confusion at the parts store
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2024 | 03:28 PM
  #14  
My4Fordtrucks's Avatar
My4Fordtrucks
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 12,587
Likes: 2,361
Originally Posted by Davidwillis
Thanks fellas I didn't mean to be disrespectful to my little Ford I like it a lot I'm just finding that there were some interesting things about it because it was a transition year and there is confusion at the parts store
Not a transition year. It was the last year for that body style which had been around since 1992. It was only available in the F-250 HD and F-350. The F-150 was redesigned in 1997 and there was a Light Duty F-250 with the same “Jellybean” body. There should be no confusion at the parts store when you tell them what engine is in the truck but what do you expect? You can look it up on the same system they use.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2024 | 08:17 PM
  #15  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,223
Likes: 5,405
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
that is why we tell everyone with a 97 F250HD to just ask for parts for a 96 F250. parts store counter monkeys have the intelligence of a 3 year old.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:43 AM.