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Old Apr 13, 2024 | 09:46 AM
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No 4x4!!!

2002 F-250 lariat 4x4 7.3 powerstroke. 4x4 went from working great to not working at all overnight. When shifted into four high, it does not do anything; no power to the dash and no clicking for the relays. I swapped out the 4 x 4 switch and swapped with another used gem module. Neither has worked. I have noticed that I am not getting any power to the two wire plug to the actuator when first initiating 4 x 4. I also realized that the relay block under the hood that is responsible for going into 4 x 4 or 2 x 4 has no power as well. If anyone can give me any leads on what to look for next and as to why the relay block has no power. I’d much appreciate it.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2024 | 10:18 AM
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Did you check all the fuses that are required for 4x4 operation? There are probably half a dozen. See owner's manual.

 
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Old Apr 13, 2024 | 08:49 PM
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Yes, all fuses are good.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2024 | 08:51 PM
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I’d really like to know where the relays get the power from.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 11:46 PM
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With key off, put 4x4 shift on the fly dash switch into 4x4 high, start truck, and see if it is now in 4x4, lite should be on, in the dash board
 
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Old Apr 15, 2024 | 05:01 PM
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Tried it with same results. No power to 4x4 relay block.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2024 | 05:27 PM
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If there is no power to the 4x4 relay block, one of the fuses isn't supplying power to it.

SPECIFICALLY check fuse F59 under the dash and verify that both sides of the fuse are ALWAYS HOT.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2024 | 08:46 PM
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Pull that garbage electric shift transfer case out and swap a manual shift one in.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2024 | 05:23 AM
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Ok I’ll check fuse 59 today and double check.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2024 | 10:55 AM
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Here you go, a permanent solution to the issue, even made in the USA.

https://wildhorsemfg.com/index.php/n...onversion-kit/
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Old Apr 17, 2024 | 05:06 PM
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Projectsho89, there is no fuse 59. It goes up to 48 then jumps to 101. 2002 f-250 7.3
 
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Old Apr 17, 2024 | 07:45 PM
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Projectsho89, there is no fuse 59. It goes up to 48 then jumps to 101. 2002 f-250 7.3
Hmmm.... Seems to me I vaguely recall running across this issue before where the 2002 service docs I have didn't match production vehicles.

Instead, check fuse F111.

 
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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
Pull that garbage electric shift transfer case out and swap a manual shift one in.
You don't have to swap the actual transfer cases anymore. There is a direct bolt in kit to manually shift the 273 now (see link below), and the 273 is just as strong as the 271, the two cases are almost identical really, the 273 doesn't have a true neutral detent like the 271 does though. No need to even remove the driveshafts to convert to reliable manual shifting.

https://wildhorsemfg.com/index.php/n...onversion-kit/
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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Antonm23
You don't have to swap the actual transfer cases anymore. There is a direct bolt in kit to manually shift the 273 now (see link below), and the 273 is just as strong as the 271, the two cases are almost identical really, the 273 doesn't have a true neutral detent like the 271 does though. No need to even remove the driveshafts to convert to reliable manual shifting.

https://wildhorsemfg.com/index.php/n...onversion-kit/
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True that is a good option as well but I like to have a true neutral and working 4x4 lights.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2024 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
True that is a good option as well but I like to have a true neutral and working 4x4 lights.
I agree, but for the cost and ease of installation, I’ll give up the true neutral (never really use that anyway, and it wasn’t an option when it was electronic shifted anyway).
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