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Old Apr 12, 2024 | 01:24 PM
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VCT Repair $4900!?

$4900 repair normal for recommend replacing VCT's timing chains, guides, tensioners, and all one-time use parts. This seems extreme.

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Old Apr 12, 2024 | 03:33 PM
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$4900 repair normal for recommend replacing VCT's timing chains, guides, tensioners, and all one-time use parts. This seems extreme.

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That price would fall inline with entire engine replacement and white glove treatment, they pick up your vehicle, repair it, return it. Get another estimate, whomever gave you that price is hungry/greedy or you live where cost of living is astronomical.

Or.... from a pattern I've noticed since that Covid crap hit our shores, everything has doubled in cost. I'm now paying almost as much to insure my home as my mortgage costs. It's like buying 2 houses just to insure I have 1 to live in... that's mostly a geographic issue though, I live in hurricane alley, but yeah, I haven't found much of anything that doesn't cost double what it did prior to the pandemic.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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That price would fall inline with entire engine replacement and white glove treatment, they pick up your vehicle, repair it, return it. Get another estimate, whomever gave you that price is hungry/greedy or you live where cost of living is astronomical.

This is from a ford dealer in Pasco, WA. I would think it would be more standardized.

 
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Old Apr 12, 2024 | 04:02 PM
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This is from a ford dealer in Pasco, WA. I would think it would be more standardized.
Dealers are independently owned. There isn't a single Ford dealer on this rock that's owned by Ford. There are some standards like technician training and special tools, those cost each dealer what ever it costs but it's still just any Joe on the planet that met Ford specs for being an authorized dealer. Think franchises because that's what Ford dealers are. Just like Micky D', Burger King, Wendys etal.

Check your local area labor rates, shop around, ask friends, neighbors, enemies (lol) for referrals and don't hesitate to look into independent shops for options. I can tell you from first hand experience and as an ex dealer line tech of 11 years, the dealer is NOT always the best choice.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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You simply can’t get an engine in a modern truck replaced for that. Even a used one installed is higher than that.

Look at videos on line and see how invasive the job is. Make sure that water pump is replaced when the work is done. You may get some varying estimates, but they will all be fairly high. Also, check with your local, highly rated ASE independent shop for a quote.
 
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Originally Posted by RLXXI
Dealers are independently owned. There isn't a single Ford dealer on this rock that's owned by Ford. There are some standards like technician training and special tools, those cost each dealer what ever it costs but it's still just any Joe on the planet that met Ford specs for being an authorized dealer.

Check your local area labor rates, shop around, ask friends, neighbors, enemies (lol) for referrals and don't hesitate to look into independent shops for options. I can tell you from first hand experience and as an ex dealer line tech, the dealer is NOT always the best choice.
Very true. My closest local Ford dealer charges $202 hr for labor.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2024 | 04:20 PM
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Very true. My closest local Ford dealer charges $202 hr for labor.
$202!!! ?!?!? DAMN, when I left a small town country dealer in 04 we were at $60/hr, my cut was 20/hr. Geography largely dictates the price per hour. When you pay $60/hr in Alabama, you're probably paying 3x that in San Fransisco.
 
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I tend to think that $4,900 is about the going price for this job that would hopefully be done properly. You should be able to have some degree of confidence in the dealer. They should be using OEM parts and that matters. New (good) engine replacements are about twice that much. Anything unusual happen to this engine to cause the repair? I have two F-150's with the 5.0 and can't help but be curious. The 5.0 is considered to be a strong engine with proper maintenance.
 
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I tend to think that $4,900 is about the going price for this job that would hopefully be done properly. You should be able to have some degree of confidence in the dealer. They should be using OEM parts and that matters. New (good) engine replacements are about twice that much. Anything unusual happen to this engine to cause the repair? I have two F-150's with the 5.0 and can't help but be curious. The 5.0 is considered to be a strong engine with proper maintenance.

Nope, regular oil changes with full synth, used in a suburban setting.
 
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I often wonder if this phaser issue is due in a large part to dealers and/or quick change places using bulk 5w20 in everything, to include EcoBoosts, no matter what the customer thinks they are paying for. The next thing I would blame is going by the oil life monitor in the truck, which is usually makes for around a 10k oil change interval.
 
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Originally Posted by JKBrad
I often wonder if this phaser issue is due in a large part to dealers and/or quick change places using bulk 5w20 in everything, to include EcoBoosts, no matter what the customer thinks they are paying for. The next thing I would blame is going by the oil life monitor in the truck, which is usually makes for around a 10k oil change interval.
Yup, yup and yup. But to be fair, my daughter's 2018 3.5L truck had to have this same job done under warranty at around 26K miles. She was so disgusted that she was ready to throw the truck away and I can't say that I blamed her for feeling that way. She's deployed three times since then and has doubled her mileage and no more issues.

At least if you have the dealer do the work, it'll be warranted for a couple years and unlimited miles.
 
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My son in law had to have it done on his 2016 2.7 at just 4k miles. He had only a few hundred miles on the first oil change, which the dealer did. So, I blame the issue on a oil mistake by the dealer. He now has about 115k on the truck, no timing issues since, just the dreaded oil pan leak.
 
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