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Old Apr 6, 2024 | 06:41 AM
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High performance vgt solenoid

Haven't seen any mention of this product on here.

Paging @speakerfritz

https://turbotimeusa.com/products/lightning-bolt-vgt-solenoid

Found a couple videos from the manufacturer but that's it. The basis is the oem solenoid is kind of weak and exhaust gasses tend to push the vanes in the turbine open sooner than they have to. This solenoid is stronger, holding the veins in their closed position (better, longer?) increasing spool up, low end and better vgt control throughout the rpm range.

Personally I have always thought the vgt was a little soft feeling in the low end. Making it feel laggier than it should/could be.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2024 | 08:03 PM
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Okay I'm not a diesel mechanic nor trained in turbocharged CI engines but I have seen this before when it first came out a few years ago and since I have zero experience with this stuff, I didn't know what to think on this... Pretty wild you posted up. Maybe someone here has... Let me see if I can find any reviews on this...

Here's a link from the product page...

https://www.dieselworldmag.com/diesel-technology/optimize-your-vgt-turbo/?fbclid=IwAR1glDp00iuaQgxe5YiC-l1dagoLeWhUYKnURVWRfNj53TW4qN_YAIWUyoc
 

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Old Apr 7, 2024 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
Okay I'm not a diesel mechanic nor trained in turbocharged CI engines but I have seen this before when it first came out a few years ago and since I have zero experience with this stuff, I didn't know what to think on this... Pretty wild you posted up. Maybe someone here has... Let me see if I can find any reviews on this...

Here's a link from the product page...

https://www.dieselworldmag.com/diese...TW4qN_YAIWUyoc
Claimed gains are 10hp, 30lb/ft as well as decreased lag.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2024 | 03:21 PM
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I do have interest in trying one on my truck, but it is sadly about a year out on my priority list. Thanks for sharing as I had not heard of this before this thread.
I like the principal, easy install, no tuning and the trial period is less than $100 if you don't like it is a pretty nice option too.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2024 | 05:04 PM
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Interesting…will have to read up about it.


 
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 12:22 PM
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Since the turbo would have to come out for the this upgrade, it makes sense to me to rebuild the turbo with a 360 thrust bearing rebuild kit, as I learned from @brokestroke and his informative posts, as well as install a MBRP 4 inch stainless down pipe.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
Since the turbo would have to come out for the this upgrade, it makes sense to me to rebuild the turbo with a 360 thrust bearing rebuild kit, as I learned from @brokestroke and his informative posts, as well as install a MBRP 4 inch stainless down pipe.
Does it have to come out or can it be swapped with it in the truck? Haven't looked at it in a while to remember.
 
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Originally Posted by brokestroke
Does it have to come out or can it be swapped with it in the truck? Haven't looked at it in a while to remember.
Not sure my man... you know a lot more about this stuff than I do... but I like my idea as I remember reading your build thread and what you had to say...
 
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Old Apr 14, 2024 | 11:53 PM
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This has also intrigued me. The 11-14 trucks seem to get better fuel mileage because they are more responsive. I wonder if this would put the newer trucks into that same range or make it just feel no so dang lazy.
 
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Originally Posted by b00stleak
This has also intrigued me. The 11-14 trucks seem to get better fuel mileage because they are more responsive. I wonder if this would put the newer trucks into that same range or make it just feel no so dang lazy.
The 11-14 trucks spool up faster due to a small turbine and ball bearings whereas the 15+ trucks have a larger turbine and regular brass bearings. This change was discussed by David Ives (6.7 PSD project manager) during the product release for the '15 trucks and he claimed that other changes like fueling and torque converter was changed to offset the larger slower to spool turbo, but many reported later they could feel a sluggish feel. Not sure how much this stronger VGT solenoid improves spool up, but it sure sounds like it could improve the exhaust brake performance.

Go to 6:30 in this video...

 
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
The 11-14 trucks spool up faster due to a small turbine and ball bearings whereas the 15+ trucks have a larger turbine and regular brass bearings. This change was discussed by David Ives (6.7 PSD project manager) during the product release for the '15 trucks and he claimed that other changes like fueling and torque converter was changed to offset the larger slower to spool turbo, but many reported later they could feel a sluggish feel. Not sure how much this stronger VGT solenoid improves spool up, but it sure sounds like it could improve the exhaust brake performance.
Good info. Thank you for that and the video.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2024 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
The 11-14 trucks spool up faster due to a small turbine and ball bearings whereas the 15+ trucks have a larger turbine and regular brass bearings. This change was discussed by David Ives (6.7 PSD project manager) during the product release for the '15 trucks and he claimed that other changes like fueling and torque converter was changed to offset the larger slower to spool turbo, but many reported later they could feel a sluggish feel. Not sure how much this stronger VGT solenoid improves spool up, but it sure sounds like it could improve the exhaust brake performance.
Wonder if a billet (in theory lighter, I think) compressor wheel would help if someone thought the 2015+ trucks were too sluggish.

https://kcturbos.com/products/kc-gen...erstroke-15-18

https://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/w...RoCEZMQAvD_BwE

Billet wheels are a common upgrade in the 7.3 PSD word due to turbo bark.


 
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Old Apr 16, 2024 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rufushusky
Wonder if a billet (in theory lighter, I think) compressor wheel would help if someone thought the 2015+ trucks were too sluggish.

https://kcturbos.com/products/kc-gen...erstroke-15-18

https://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/w...RoCEZMQAvD_BwE

Billet wheels are a common upgrade in the 7.3 PSD word due to turbo bark.
I run the KC wheel in the first link. It didn't really change anything although I changed the turbine wheel at the same time.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2024 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by brokestroke
I run the KC wheel in the first link. It didn't really change anything although I changed the turbine wheel at the same time.
Just curious, did you go bigger on the turbine wheel?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2024 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rufushusky
Wonder if a billet (in theory lighter, I think) compressor wheel would help if someone thought the 2015+ trucks were too sluggish.

https://kcturbos.com/products/kc-gen...erstroke-15-18

https://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/w...RoCEZMQAvD_BwE

Billet wheels are a common upgrade in the 7.3 PSD word due to turbo bark.
Don't know as the design of the turbine plays a huge role... Also the other thing the 11-14 trucks have are smaller/lighter connecting rods which helps reduce rotating mass that provides a more responsive engine.

One thing to remember with todays emissions strick diesels is turbo boost will always come first and then additional fuel during acceleration in order to reduce soot/emissions which equates to x amount of lag.
 
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