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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 08:39 AM
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Dually 4x4 conversion

I want to make my cab and chassis dually 4x4. Have a D60 dually axle, a 4wd f250 parts truck , a 4x4 ZF5, a front drive shaft ,and a Reverse Shackle Kit. What else do I need?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 11:35 AM
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Just off top of my head...

Fresh brakes...calipers, pads, rotors, hoses
Fresh leaf bushings
Gear oil, RTV
Ujoints and seals for the D60
Locking hubs if old are inop
Steering linkage
Transfer case with pump fix
Clutch kit
Shocks
Various chemicals...brake fluid, brake cleaner, ATF

Anyway, I would budget an easy $5000.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
Just off top of my head...

Fresh brakes...calipers, pads, rotors, hoses
Fresh leaf bushings
Gear oil, RTV
Ujoints and seals for the D60
Locking hubs if old are inop
Steering linkage
Transfer case with pump fix
Clutch kit
Shocks
Various chemicals...brake fluid, brake cleaner, ATF

Anyway, I would budget an easy $5000.
Truck had a new clutch 10k miles ago so I don’t think it needs replaced. My transfer case Is a BW 4407. The axle has all linkages and a pitman arm. Most stuff on axle looks in good shape. Definitely counting on new brakes.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 06:42 PM
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Sounds like you have all of the big items already.

You may need the panhard bar and bracket. The brackets overlooked sometimes. If the truck is lifted there are taller brackets available too.

I would suggest breaking it into two projects. Doing the front axle swap as one and then the trans swap/transfer case install as a second. Gives less room for errors and makes troubleshooting any issues that much easier.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 08:06 PM
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The axle has the panhard bar and bracket on it.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 08:36 PM
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Guess you have it all figured out. Show it to us post completion as well as full breakdown of cost with quality parts.
 
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What is the front axle out of?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 06:03 AM
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A ‘97 cab and chassis dump truck.
 
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Ok, nice. Everything should more or less bolt right up.

Have you got springs yet? ATS springs is awesome to work with if you're still looking. They have standard spring options and HD versions. They can also custom arch them for you if you wanted a bit more height.

Did you have the drivesahfts already too? I just had one made for my front by Tom Woods Shaft Shop. They're all custom made to order and done quick.

It might be worth checking the transmission and transfer case out while they're out of the truck. Pop them open and see how the gears look. Never be an easier time.

The axle should fall right on. Is the gearing the same as your current rear axle?
 
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The axle is the same ratio as my rear. The f250 has springs. I have a front drive shaft and I will need the rear shortened.
 
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I don't think the springs are the same. You'll need 99-04 SD springs I'm pretty sure since you're doing the RSK. Pretty sure it's not recommended to use F250 springs for a solid axle.
 
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Superduty springs only need to be used with certain RSKs. I will probably end up using the 250 ones for the time being, because my dad is going to put a 4 inch lift on his F350 soon and I will use his old springs. I was just going to wait for them but my brothers truck needs the 2wd parts from mine.
 
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If the 250 had the swing axles, (TTB, 'twin I beam', 'really bad idea' etc.) the 250 springs will be far too stiff.

The swing axle front suspension has a pretty high motion ratio between the wheel and the spring,
(1.5, maybe, when you factor in torsion and binding?)
whereas a solid axle's a nice simple 1:1.

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I know they will be too stiff but I don’t want to buy new springs when I could just use those for now.
 
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I'm doing a 94 F250 4x4 Dana 60 conversion. I already have the 10.25 dually axle in the rear. It has a 460 auto.
 
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