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Old Mar 5, 2024 | 05:26 PM
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1946 Trans swap

Hello guys,

I love reading all the posts in this forum. You guys can be a great help. I am rebuilding an old 1946 1/2 ton pickup. It has an FE locked engine. I bought a 59 block that is supposed to be a 1946 but it has the helmet distributor so I suspect it is really older. I found a T-1A transmission which I understand is a four speed. I ordered a new clutch kit that is 10 inch. Should this work fine with the 59 block engine. Another thing is that this could be a car engine. I am new to all this. The oldest vehicle I owned before was a 64 . Thanks in advance for all the help.
 

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Old Mar 6, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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Once you get everything torn apart and that FE out of the way, take a good, close look at any frame modifications that were done to fit that engine in there. Due to their size, I've never seen an FE swap into our old trucks that didn't require an immense amount of hackery. Make the necessary repairs before fitting the flatty back in it's place.

The 59AB series of engines used from 45-47 in trucks and through 48 in cars all had the front distributor. Car or truck engines shouldn't matter as long as you have the correct water pumps with the truck motor mounts built in. I'm not familiar enough with these engines to know the details so others here will be of more help. The T9 trans will be non-synchro so be prepared to learn to double clutch if you're not familiar. Make sure it has the correct tail shaft housing with the right mount for your frame. Clutch size is dependent on the flywheel and what size it is set up for.

Good luck with your project, good for you for taking on the restoration. Keep us posted on your progress!
 
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Old Mar 11, 2024 | 11:21 PM
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If your clutch is drilled for the 11" flywheel, the threaded holes will be right near the perimeter of the flywheel, like a half inch in from the ring gear. I think the 9 and 10 inch both use the same smaller pattern. If the distributer is indeed a helmut typewith 2 side mounted caps, it could be an older engine, even if it has ab heads. Is there a big '59' on top of the cast belhousing? If so it's a 59ab. Best of luck. I love jailbars. 40 ford cab but wider track so we can haul plywood (and drift the corners) . The open driveline alone is worth the price of admission. Hydraulic brakes. Very modern for it's time, but retains old look. End of jailbar rant.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GB SISSON
If your clutch is drilled for the 11" flywheel, the threaded holes will be right near the perimeter of the flywheel, like a half inch in from the ring gear. I think the 9 and 10 inch both use the same smaller pattern. If the distributer is indeed a helmut typewith 2 side mounted caps, it could be an older engine, even if it has ab heads. Is there a big '59' on top of the cast belhousing? If so it's a 59ab. Best of luck. I love jailbars. 40 ford cab but wider track so we can haul plywood (and drift the corners) . The open driveline alone is worth the price of admission. Hydraulic brakes. Very modern for it's time, but retains old look. End of jailbar rant.
It is indeed a 59 series block with the helmet distributor but I am replacing with the pancake distributor and an adapter from 3 bolt to 2 bolt. No AB heads. It has a clutch kit on it but I ordered a new 10 inch clutch kit that is supposed to fit. I'll know for sure once I try to install it. I fell in love with 1949 to 50's trucks back in the '70s but never owned one. I was about to buy a 1950 Truck off of ebay when I found the jailbar truck here in Orlando. Gotta love the old round fenders! Anyone know of a good tank to use? I have an old ugly fuel cell that looks like a rusty box. I would rather mount one under the frame instead of riding on it under the seat. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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Old Mar 12, 2024 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
Once you get everything torn apart and that FE out of the way, take a good, close look at any frame modifications that were done to fit that engine in there. Due to their size, I've never seen an FE swap into our old trucks that didn't require an immense amount of hackery. Make the necessary repairs before fitting the flatty back in it's place.

The 59AB series of engines used from 45-47 in trucks and through 48 in cars all had the front distributor. Car or truck engines shouldn't matter as long as you have the correct water pumps with the truck motor mounts built in. I'm not familiar enough with these engines to know the details so others here will be of more help. The T9 trans will be non-synchro so be prepared to learn to double clutch if you're not familiar. Make sure it has the correct tail shaft housing with the right mount for your frame. Clutch size is dependent on the flywheel and what size it is set up for.

Good luck with your project, good for you for taking on the restoration. Keep us posted on your progress!
At the very least I noticed the 2nd cross member was cut. Probably will need to weld something back for the mounts too. It is definitely a project but body itself is pretty sound just a little metal work and of course fresh paint. Hopefully not too hard to remount the drive train but I have some friends to help.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2024 | 10:19 AM
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If you are running a T5/T10 the crossmember need to be cut anyways. I planning a T5 swap into my jailbar woodie wagon.


 
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