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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 10:24 AM
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Wonder if the add on edge sensor is bad or setup on the wrong scale like it's setup for 0-100psi instead of 0-50psi. It's been a while since I added a sensor on to mine so can't remember what all options there were. Worth checking and playing around with though. Swap sensor with the fuel pressure sensor and see what they read if there is any change to see if sensor is off or bad.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 10:33 AM
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"Boost" shows true boost. Not absolute. If any of your sensor were reading absolute they would be reading at 14.x at idle or just switched on. That's not your issue.
If you looked at the pics, you can see that the MAP reading that shows is set to boost. I went over this with EDGE customer service while driving without any resolution. It has stumped me so far. I totally understand what you are saying about absolute and gauge pressure, they are two different readings. Maybe I’m missing something in the setup. Before I added the boost fooler, I was seeing well over 21 psi from the MAP sensor, but never much more than 12-13 from the EAS sensor and CTS3 display. Go figure!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpayne621

If you looked at the pics, you can see that the MAP reading that shows is set to boost. I went over this with EDGE customer service while driving without any resolution. It has stumped me so far. I totally understand what you are saying about absolute and gauge pressure, they are two different readings. Maybe I’m missing something in the setup. Before I added the boost fooler, I was seeing well over 21 psi from the MAP sensor, but never much more than 12-13 from the EAS sensor and CTS3 display. Go figure!
I understand that and see that in your pics. I was saying it for the other people mentioning it. I said at the end that's not your issue. There all reading the same actual gauge pressure.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpayne621
Wonder if the add on edge sensor is bad or setup on the wrong scale like it's setup for 0-100psi instead of 0-50psi. It's been a while since I added a sensor on to mine so can't remember what all options there were. Worth checking and playing around with though. Swap sensor with the fuel pressure sensor and see what they read if there is any change to see if sensor is off or bad.
It is set on 0-100psi. The same as the fuel sensor is and the fuel sensor reads perfectly! You might have missed that I have already replaced the boost sensor with a new sensor from EDGE and the new one reads just like the old one did. Also replaced the MAP sensor with a genuine Motorcraft sensor. It is a puzzle for sure!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 10:50 AM
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Try it on the 0-100 scale. They could be 100 psi sensors. Tbe fuel pressure should be anyway as it reads over 50psi all the time.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpayne621
Try it on the 0-100 scale. They could be 100 psi sensors. Tbe fuel pressure should be anyway as it reads over 50psi all the time.
I edited the last post I made, but the pressure for both of them are on 0-100 I believe. I’ve actually already tried it both ways to no avail. It is not really an issue as the engine runs like a scalded dog with all of the mods I have made. It just bugs me. I am guessing that the MAP sensor is correct anyhow as I had to put the boost fooler on to keep from derating the fuel. On the other had though, I have a sensor that is lying to me and I can’t see what my boost is above 21 psi.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 11:55 AM
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Are we sure the EAS boost sensor itself is 0-100 range? If it’s a 0-50 sensor then that could explain it.

But you’ve tried both scales with no change? That should change the read out regardless if it’s correct or not. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Are we sure the EAS boost sensor itself is 0-100 range? If it’s a 0-50 sensor then that could explain it.

But you’ve tried both scales with no change? That should change the read out regardless if it’s correct or not. 🤷‍♂️
I’ll try it again soon and update.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2024 | 12:56 PM
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I did a quick search for “edge eas boost sensor.” Everything that was popping up seemed to show as 0-100. So this is unlikely to be your problem. I’d pull the part number from the sensor itself and Google it.

Only thing left I can think of is a short in the Edge wiring. Or something wrong with the CTS itself.
Idea! Maybe try adding the sensor/channel again under a new function. Like Oil Pressure or such. See if it acts the same. I’m not sure how those are added in since my only add on is the EGT probe. Just a thought.

Like you, I also tend to believe your MAP sensor reading based on you stating where it cuts off as max of 21 with the boost fooler. And with how you say it runs really well.
 
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This is running this morning. Fuel is set on 0-100. Boost is on 0-50.
 
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Set the boost to 0-100. It needs to be set for whatever the sensor is rated for to read correctly. In the eas settings.
 
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Originally Posted by Tpayne621
Set the boost to 0-100. It needs to be set for whatever the sensor is rated for to read correctly. In the eas settings.
I will try it and update as soon as I can. Probably tomorrow.
 
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Originally Posted by OldMechanic57
I will try it and update as soon as I can. Probably tomorrow.
That may explain why it's double what it should be. The sensors just send a voltage reading to the edge and it converts it. If you have it set on 0-50 with a 0-100 sensor the same voltage reading would make it readout roughly twice as high of what it should be. Make sense?
 
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Originally Posted by Tpayne621
If you have it set on 0-50 with a 0-100 sensor the same voltage reading would make it readout roughly twice as high of what it should be.
This case would cause it to read half of actual, which is what he’s seeing.

I agree, it looks like it’s just half of what it should be and setting to 0-100 should take care of it.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2024 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RacinJasonWV
This case would cause it to read half of actual, which is what he’s seeing.

I agree, it looks like it’s just half of what it should be and setting to 0-100 should take care of it.
Correct. Got half and double mixed up but you knew what I meant. lol
 
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