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This is what our society is evolving into. Heavily armed soldiers at public transportation hubs. Warrantless searches at random. Our civil liberties are eroding. Today, it's New York. Tomorrow, it could be anywhere. An armed military occupation. Random searches of people and property. Marshall Law.
Remember when New York had "Stop and Frisk?" It was effective, but people didn't like that white kids weren't getting frisked as much as color chart kids. Here's what Michael Bloomberg had to say about the program, which was pretty effective.
"Ninety-five percent of murders- murderers and murder victims fit one M.O. You can just take the description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops. They are male, minorities, 16-25. That's true in New York, that's true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that's where the real crime is. You've got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed. So you want to spend the money on a lot of cops in the streets. Put those cops where the crime is, which means in minority neighborhoods. So one of the unintended consequences is people say, 'Oh my God, you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities.' Yes, that's true. Why? Because we put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. Yes, that's true. Why do we do it? Because that's where all the crime is. And the way you get the guns out of the kids' hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them… And then they start… 'Oh I don't want to get caught.' So they don't bring the gun. They still have a gun, but they leave it at home."
I guess the juice wasn't worth the squeeze to the voters.
What woke people do not like is truth. The truth is that we are not equal. Life is not fair. A sudden armed occupation of the subway is going to effect poor and minorities. Because that's the demographic on public transit. Also because that's where crime is occurring. It almost seems too easy to say that if you don't want to be overrepresented in the criminal justice system: then stop committing crimes.
Finally! The criminals are being deterred. Sure more minorities are going to scream that they are singled out. That is because they are the ones committing the crimes. FBI stats show that males of color between 18-25 are also the once committing the most gun violence. So it makes sense to target them regardless of all the backlash they give.
Please define "woke". I have not heard one good definition.
"Woke" is a term that a particular demographic chose to use as an identity. With society being fluid and dynamic, there's no fixed definition, other than someone wanting to say that they are "woke", or someone choosing to describe someone else as "woke".
As with identity politics, you can identify as whatever you want to be, or the term could be a pejorative. It all depends on context. There are colloquial terms which I didn't learn until well into adulthood, that I wish I never learned. Some inmates in the correctional system call themselves certain words as an identity. Only, if you or I say it, it's derogatory.
Finally! The criminals are being deterred. Sure more minorities are going to scream that they are singled out. That is because they are the ones committing the crimes. FBI stats show that males of color between 18-25 are also the once committing the most gun violence. So it makes sense to target them regardless of all the backlash they give.
Jim
From my narrow point of view, statistics offer a very small piece of peace keeping. Society is not comfortable with having the conversation to discuss differences in the human condition.
In my small corner of the world, the recent controversy revolves around "pretextual traffic stops". Statistically, people of a certain race are stopped at a higher rate for code violations. This leads to people of a certain race being arrested for other other violations discovered during the course of the traffic stop. The Police Commission, a civilian board, wants the police to stop enforcing code violations based on race. As if the law no longer applies to a certain race.
Nobody wants to have the conversation about why a particular demographic is actually in violation. Why are their registrations expired, their windows illegally tinted, their radios loud, their lights not working? Well, if the vehicle has illegal window tint, the police can't see the driver to even know what race the driver is. If I see an expired registration, lane change without signal, swerving and weaving, or nonoperative brake lamp; am I suppose to selectively enforce based on race? Meaning only stop certain races while not stopping certain races? Who gets to decide which race gets stopped?
It's getting to be a crazy world out there; it seems to be lawless at times. Here in the little town I live in it seems that the drivers do what they want. I see people doing U-turns mid-block, going one direction crossing the double yellow to park on the other side, running stop signs license plates that are sometimes two years expired. And here is the lasted headline.
Legalizing jaywalking to reduce enforcement inequities considered at Washington statehouse.
It's getting to be a crazy world out there; it seems to be lawless at times. Here in the little town I live in it seems that the drivers do what they want. I see people doing U-turns mid-block, going one direction crossing the double yellow to park on the other side, running stop signs license plates that are sometimes two years expired. And here is the lasted headline.
Legalizing jaywalking to reduce enforcement inequities considered at Washington statehouse.
I don't get it. What do they want? Are they saying that a person of color should be allowed to jaywalk? That's a lot like saying that people of color should be exempt from vehicle stops for vehicle code violations. Only different. What will happen when everyone runs into the road whenever they want, and then they get hit by cars?
I don't get it. What do they want? Are they saying that a person of color should be allowed to jaywalk? That's a lot like saying that people of color should be exempt from vehicle stops for vehicle code violations. Only different. What will happen when everyone runs into the road whenever they want, and then they get hit by cars?
Basically, the left is constantly making excuses and rewarding bad decisions for people of color. To the left, those folks can't learn as well, won't become as good of citizens, and need to be protected and coddled their whole lives. Worse, they dumb down the bar for the rest of society so POC don't feel bad for under-achieving.
Statistics are subject to interpretation. The U.S. Bureau of Prisons just released their latest numbers. Then look at the US Census . Just raw data. Race data in accordance with guidelines provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget.
Less than 15% of the population is almost 40% of the incarcerated population.
Just raw data.
Allegedly, with zero science to support the hypothesis, people of color are 10 times more likely to be pulled over for a traffic stop. This leads to encounters where police discover more evidence which leads to an arrest. They call it a pretextual traffic stop. The traffic stop is the pretext for a police contact.
My first hand experience is that the initial traffic stops were valid. Violations were observed. Failure to obey a traffic control device. Traveling at an unsafe speed. Expired registration. Et Cetera. There's no pretext. Someone actually committed a violation.
What happens next? The same thing happens to everyone. Assuming that you do not take off at a high rate of speed, you are asked to produce a drivers license, vehicle registration, and proof of insurance. This is where everything happens or doesn't happen.
Maybe you don't have any outstanding wants or warrants, the vehicle is not stolen, and your insurance is valid. You may be given a warning or issued a citation. There could be bias. Some cops write everyone a ticket. Some cops are lazy. Some cops are biased. Humans are biased.
The other scenario is that the officer sees a gun or drugs in plain view. Maybe smells the odor of drugs or alcohol. The vehicle is reported stolen. Your license is expired. You have outstanding warrants. You have a warrantless search parole condition. Someone is screaming for help from inside of the trunk. Is there bias? Or are you covered in blood and there's a dead body in the backseat?
What about statistics? I don't know. But every traffic stop, I have ever seen, was based on a real code violation. And I can only say that about traffic stops I have seen. I wasn't at every vehicle stop and I can't tell you what occurred when I wasn't there. The guy getting pulled over really did run a stop sign. This is not 50 years ago in The Deep South, where Sheriff Lobo is pulling over people of color just to harass them.
As for personal bias, it exists. Officers are allowed discretion. They can decide to give someone a warning without a citation. No law says that they have to write a ticket. No law says who they can give a break to. But if you are uncooperative, confrontational, and you reach for a gun: it doesn't help.
