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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 02:03 PM
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4wd headers fitment

First off, I attempted the search function and came up short. My apologizes if this has already been addressed (and I'm sure it has, I just can't find it).

I seem to recall that the exhaust manifolds for the 460 in a 79 4wd are unique? Are the headers also unique in that headers marked for a 79 2wd 460 won't work? Or am I completely wrong and fabricating memories again? I see a very select few that are marked for 4wd and they are outrageously priced.

my current project is de-smogging a 460 from a 83 RV to put it back into my 79 f150. The heads on the current 460 got cracked when the manifold warped and pulled away. I might keep the block of that one and rebuild it with performance parts at some point
 
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Look at L and L headers. They make a set specifically for swapping a 460 into a 4wd 1/2 ton Dentside. That's what I bought.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 05:49 PM
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Any chance anybody knows of an option less than $600?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 07:40 AM
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I haven't actually tried to reinstall yet, but visually the exhaust tubes look to be in the same place and orientation on both vehicles... can I just use 2wd headers?
 
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Originally Posted by Jnr96
Any chance anybody knows of an option less than $600?
I don't know of anything under $600, in this economy. But you're welcome for the tip.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jnr96
Any chance anybody knows of an option less than $600?
sure, run manifolds.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ivsamhain
sure, run manifolds.
Sounds like that's what I'll be doing... only paid $500 for the whole donor rv haha
 
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460 NEVER came from the factory in a 1979 4wd. Now YES you can get from the factory a 460 in a 1979 2wd. And yes I believe that car and truck exhaust manifolds are different. Car ones are shorter and cause some 460 swap into a 4wd 1979 issues, that people fix by torch notching the frame, especially on the passenger side near the frame vin.

AFAIK 1979 2wd 460 truck exhaust manifolds are longer and exit a little bit further back and work way better.

Check out Mad Dog headers, NOT cheap. https://maddogheaders.net/ford-headers

Or Hedman headers, not cheap either. https://www.hedman.com/truck-headers...ID=666&CID=460
 
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Old Feb 18, 2024 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
460 NEVER came from the factory in a 1979 4wd. Now YES you can get from the factory a 460 in a 1979 2wd. And yes I believe that car and truck exhaust manifolds are different. Car ones are shorter and cause some 460 swap into a 4wd 1979 issues, that people fix by torch notching the frame, especially on the passenger side near the frame vin.

AFAIK 1979 2wd 460 truck exhaust manifolds are longer and exit a little bit further back and work way better.

Check out Mad Dog headers, NOT cheap. https://maddogheaders.net/ford-headers

Or Hedman headers, not cheap either. https://www.hedman.com/truck-headers...ID=666&CID=460
Thank you! This was the type of insight i was looking for! If i understand correctly, it sounds like a 2wd truck to 4wd truck is a simpler swap than trying to take a 2wd car to 4wd truck? If so I should be okay with what I have (83 rv going to 79 4wd)? The people on this forum are a wealth of knowledge and I thank you all for your input.
 
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Well make note of how your oil pan is set up. Front or rear sump? I bet front sump for a 2wd RV. And for a 4wd you can get away with a front sump, but you CAN hit the pan with the front axle pumpkin if you off road it hard. At least the PO of my 4wd 78 F250 with a 460 swap in, and a front sump oil pan did just that.

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Car manifold.

Truck on top, car on bottom.

 
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Those pictures are incredibly helpful, thank you. I'm at work now but I'll compare when I get home. I think it may have the truck style on it already.
 
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Originally Posted by Jnr96
Any chance anybody knows of an option less than $600?
I thought the same thing when I looked at an Edelbrock Performer intake for my 410.

Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifolds 2105 $597.95

I didn't have much choice other than just bite the bullet and buy one.
 
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Car manifold.

Truck on top, car on bottom.
My passenger side looks identical to the truck manifold that was in it, the driver side however, looks like the picture you provided....
 
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I believe the truck ones exit a little further back.

 
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