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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 11:52 AM
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Hey guys, I'm CONSIDERING lifting my 91 f150 4x4 5.0 5 speed at some point, and I'd like to gather some forum wisdom.

I'd only like a 2.5 - 3 inch lift
I have 265 tires, may go to 285 if I lift
Would I need to regear my diffs? (3.55 now) and if so, is the front the same as the rear (meaning I could just purchase 2 sets of rear gears)
what all goes into a lift such as this? What are good companies and ones to avoid?
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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 12:38 PM
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the 5.0 trucks are pretty anemic with any sort of increase in tire size, i'd go with 4.56. The gear sets for front and rear are different.

The lift kits come with a drop bracket for the front, new springs, and some come with lift blocks in rear or new springs in rear. I'd go with new springs. It's also been a long time since I even looked for a kit, i dunno how abundant they are nowadays
 
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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 12:51 PM
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I would regear a stock truck and have, and no the front is D44, rear 8.8". Figure about $1500 parts and labor to regear easily. Maybe more if you need ujoints, brakes, etc.

With 33s, may as well keep it out of OD. Flat tappet 302s are beyond gutless stock.

For just 2-3", consider a body lift if they are available. Changing the TTB geometry is a pain to correct. You also may need beam bushings and radius arm ones now.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by '89F2urd
the 5.0 trucks are pretty anemic with any sort of increase in tire size, i'd go with 4.56. The gear sets for front and rear are different.

The lift kits come with a drop bracket for the front, new springs, and some come with lift blocks in rear or new springs in rear. I'd go with new springs. It's also been a long time since I even looked for a kit, i dunno how abundant they are nowadays
4.56 is a bit steep, I was thinking more along the lines of 3.73 or maybe 3.90, I don't want to destroy the ability to drive on the highway by gearing too low.

And before this turns into a "trashing on the 5.0" thread, I'm happy with the power I have.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 08:33 PM
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My 88 is a 302. Sounds like you should do 33s and keep 3.55:1 gears too.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2024 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Junktownbill99
4.56 is a bit steep, I was thinking more along the lines of 3.73 or maybe 3.90, I don't want to destroy the ability to drive on the highway by gearing too low.

And before this turns into a "trashing on the 5.0" thread, I'm happy with the power I have.
yea i understand where you're coming from. I wouldn't bother thinking about either of those gear swaps though, put the tires on and see how you like it, then go from there. 4.10's at minimum if you decide that it's too sluggish.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 08:44 AM
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You will have a dog under 4.10 with that big of a tire
A body lift is hard on things too
Go a 1.5 inch body puck and a 2 inch front and rear spring lift
Spring in the front and a block or add a leaf in the rear
Then re align it and plan on needing to re cam it for the camber and caster split
Easy and very nice when you are done
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
You will have a dog under 4.10 with that big of a tire
A body lift is hard on things too
Go a 1.5 inch body puck and a 2 inch front and rear spring lift
Spring in the front and a block or add a leaf in the rear
Then re align it and plan on needing to re cam it for the camber and caster split
Easy and very nice when you are done
https://www.carid.com/1991-ford-f-15...parentsubmodel[]=WHEEL+DRIVE|4WD+%28Four+Wheel+Drive%29

Something like this? Would I need springs or could I keep stock? I understand this just "levels" it, but it should open up the ability to put 285s on there
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Junktownbill99
4.56 is a bit steep, I was thinking more along the lines of 3.73 or maybe 3.90, I don't want to destroy the ability to drive on the highway by gearing too low.

And before this turns into a "trashing on the 5.0" thread, I'm happy with the power I have.
As someone who has personally fought with a 5.0 4x4 on 33s, 35s, and 37s, i will casually explain.... 33s need a MINIMUM of a 4.10. If you put in anything less you will be unhappy. And the 5.0 was a roller block with a 4x4 comp cam for "torque". A 91 possible flat tappet 5.0 will be woefully underpowered to enjoy at any level. I have even considered regearing my stock height 95 5.0 5 speed truck to 4.10s and I only have 31s.
 
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Originally Posted by Junktownbill99
https://www.carid.com/1991-ford-f-15...parentsubmodel=WHEEL+DRIVE|4WD+%28Four+Wheel+Drive%29

Something like this? Would I need springs or could I keep stock? I understand this just "levels" it, but it should open up the ability to put 285s on there
Those should work fine with the stock springs
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudsport96
As someone who has personally fought with a 5.0 4x4 on 33s, 35s, and 37s, i will casually explain.... 33s need a MINIMUM of a 4.10. If you put in anything less you will be unhappy. And the 5.0 was a roller block with a 4x4 comp cam for "torque". A 91 possible flat tappet 5.0 will be woefully underpowered to enjoy at any level. I have even considered regearing my stock height 95 5.0 5 speed truck to 4.10s and I only have 31s.
AHHHHH, I noticed you changed "88 flat tappet" to "91 possible flat tappet" I have seen SO much conflicting ideas whether it's a flat tappet or roller motor, so I have absolutely no idea, I'm leaning towards flat, but i cant be sure

Some people say roller ready, some say not drilled/tapped/block cast for roller, some say roller cam, some don't.

Also I would consider 4.10, as long as it wouldn't remove the streetability of the truck
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 01:59 PM
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Also I would consider 4.10, as long as it wouldn't remove the streetability of the truck
4.10s were a factory option. I highly doubt Ford would have put a gear set in vehicles that had a warranty if it would have been a problem. So 4.10s MINIMUM if you go to 33s is what I recommend.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 02:06 PM
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My 05/88 was roller block, flat tappet, not drilled and tapped. Pal's 11/88 (89MY) was roller block, flat tappet, drilled and tapped.

These were both OE long blocks.
 
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My 05/88 was roller block, flat tappet, not drilled and tapped. Pal's 11/88 (89MY) was roller block, flat tappet, drilled and tapped.

These were both OE long blocks.
Had an 5/89 drilled and tapped but flat tappet so i know at least 89s werent roller yet.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudsport96
4.10s were a factory option. I highly doubt Ford would have put a gear set in vehicles that had a warranty if it would have been a problem. So 4.10s MINIMUM if you go to 33s is what I recommend.
What I mean is I don't want a truck that has to rev super high just to drive on the road, gas is simply too expensive for that. I just want a good balance
 
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