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Old Jan 7, 2024 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Quad Racer
I understand all of that. And yes I do remember the 350’s switch more rake. Perhaps you came from the hot rod generation where there was rake in hot rod street cars IDK lol. But to me it doesn’t look right. And apparently due to all the threads and the aftermarket for leveling kits I’m not at all in the minority on that regard. Maybe ford does it for a different reason but that also doesn’t make it right. But when I spend 80k on a truck I shouldn’t have to go modding it for it to look level. The tremor package or snow plow prep are options but I didn’t order my truck. My 08 had the snow plow prep. Didn’t have to touch it. Ran 35” tires and no issues. These trucks come with the grandpa package and it sucks is all I’m saying. I want something different and it should be an option in this type of price range.
Nope, I did not come from that generation of hot rod, actually prefer the resto mod, pro touring look with those old cars. But we aren't talking about cars here anyway, I believe these are marketed as heavy duty trucks with ever increasing load capacities and some buyers wanting to use them for what could be considered their intended purpose. I know you see quite a few threads and posts from those asking about levels and lifts, but if Ford made these trucks level from the factory, I guarantee there would be just as many threads from owners complaining about and asking how to correct the sag.

Like I said before, neither the Tremor pkg or camper would have given you a level stance anyway. The camper pkg does decrease the rake some, not eliminate it, and the Tremor pkg actually has about the same rake as without. Why didn't you spend the couple hundred on the camper pkg if it was so important?

You'll be happy to know you can now run 37's without having to touch anything. Even with the "grandpa package"....no plow prep or level necessary.

 
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Old Jan 7, 2024 | 11:35 AM
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These are adjustable for height.


 
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Old Jan 7, 2024 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by honda250xtitan
what? the natural state of my truck is hooked to a trailer. idk what you're talking about.

what you're asking for is the best of both worlds, a level soft riding truck that doesn't sag when loaded. lol. airbags kind of do that but they have limits as well with ride quality. Mine rides nice with and without the trailer. it definitely sags with my trailer though....pretty badly depending on how the tongue weight is loaded
never mentioned a softer ride at all. I like the rough ride of the super duty. Aesthetics are often overlooked for better function. The aesthetics of the nose down stance of these trucks isn’t desired by most but that gets overlooked for the level stance when towing.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2024 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Nope, I did not come from that generation of hot rod, actually prefer the resto mod, pro touring look with those old cars. But we aren't talking about cars here anyway, I believe these are marketed as heavy duty trucks with ever increasing load capacities and some buyers wanting to use them for what could be considered their intended purpose. I know you see quite a few threads and posts from those asking about levels and lifts, but if Ford made these trucks level from the factory, I guarantee there would be just as many threads from owners complaining about and asking how to correct the sag.

Like I said before, neither the Tremor pkg or camper would have given you a level stance anyway. The camper pkg does decrease the rake some, not eliminate it, and the Tremor pkg actually has about the same rake as without. Why didn't you spend the couple hundred on the camper pkg if it was so important?

You'll be happy to know you can now run 37's without having to touch anything. Even with the "grandpa package"....no plow prep or level necessary.
my 08 with snow plow prep springs sat perfectly level.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2024 | 12:31 PM
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An inch or so of rake would be fine with me. I’m not a perfectionist but IMO 2.5” of rake is just too much.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2024 | 03:31 PM
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I just drive the front wheels up on the curb whenever I park. Boom, free leveling kit.

Seriously, if I didn't haul a trailer and the stance was critically important to me, I would simply add ballast in the bed. Infinitely tunable rake with a ride quality improvement to boot.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2024 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Quad Racer
The aesthetics of the nose down stance of these trucks isn’t desired by most but that gets overlooked for the level stance when towing.
You continue to restate a large assumption, using search results as the basis of it. The fallacy of using search results as the basis of your assumption (which was stated earlier) is that the trucks come from the factory with a rake. Therefore, search results or the number thereof is irrelevant as they only demonstrate the searches of those trying to reduce/eliminate the rake. They reveal nothing as to the number of owners/prospective buyers who prefer/don't care about a rake.

The F-Series of trucks are the crown jewel of Ford's automotive portfolio and account for more revenue and profits than any other model produced by Ford. While the rake may or may not have to do with CAFE standards, there's no question Ford has researched buyers/prospective buyers feelings/desires regarding styling.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 12:47 PM
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You continue to restate a large assumption, using search results as the basis of it. The fallacy of using search results as the basis of your assumption (which was stated earlier) is that the trucks come from the factory with a rake. Therefore, search results or the number thereof is irrelevant as they only demonstrate the searches of those trying to reduce/eliminate the rake. They reveal nothing as to the number of owners/prospective buyers who prefer/don't care about a rake.

The F-Series of trucks are the crown jewel of Ford's automotive portfolio and account for more revenue and profits than any other model produced by Ford. While the rake may or may not have to do with CAFE standards, there's no question Ford has researched buyers/prospective buyers feelings/desires regarding styling.
It isn’t just what I see here. I see way more trucks with level stances than without. Way more trucks with larger than factory tires than without. So we can both assume why Fomoco builds them the way they do. If you want a truck that doesn’t sit level I have zero issues with that. I and most others that I see here and on the road prefer a level looking truck. Your mileage may vary.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 12:52 PM
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poppin a wheely with only two sheets of plywood in the bed isnt a natural truck stance. thats why they arent level at the factory. if you wanna pop wheelys then spend your own money doing it
 
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 01:58 PM
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Wheelies are cool. But I’ll keep that to my dirt bike.
If anyone wants to drive around with the stock tires and grandpa package have at that. The tires are way undersized. I’m sure I’ll get push back on that too. Even though most folks add larger tires just like level kits.

There so few threads here that don’t turn into pissing matches and complaining about another man’s opinion. My opinion doesn’t have to offend yall. It wasn’t near this bad when I joined here back in 2011
 
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
poppin a wheely with only two sheets of plywood in the bed isnt a natural truck stance. thats why they arent level at the factory. if you wanna pop wheelys then spend your own money doing it

 
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 08:18 PM
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All this talk about leveling kits may just be a big waste of time. Maybe just run the ole mutt tire setup like above and boom problem solved. To me it has a similar look as the factory grandpa rake with pizza cutters lol
 
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 11:28 AM
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So I talked to a guy at pmf about blocks for the back end and he asked if I wanted them built with an airbag platform which is something I never thought of. We do plan on pulling a travel trailer one day so maybe this is a good idea? I'm not looking to jack the thing up to the sky. I'm adding the ReadyLift 1.5 inch spacers to the front and I want to keep my headlights from shining into oncoming cars so I thought to maybe install 4 inch blocks?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Garbageman 134
So I talked to a guy at pmf about blocks for the back end and he asked if I wanted them built with an airbag platform which is something I never thought of. We do plan on pulling a travel trailer one day so maybe this is a good idea? I'm not looking to jack the thing up to the sky. I'm adding the ReadyLift 1.5 inch spacers to the front and I want to keep my headlights from shining into oncoming cars so I thought to maybe install 4 inch blocks?
If you were to do that you would essentially be increasing whatever rake the truck currently has by about 1/2". Not sure what exactly you are aiming for. Are you trying to keep the same rake but just have the truck sit higher?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
If you were to do that you would essentially be increasing whatever rake the truck currently has by about 1/2". Not sure what exactly you are aiming for. Are you trying to keep the same rake but just have the truck sit higher?
Initially my thoughts were to level the truck but then someone pointed out if I put any kind of load on the back end then the headlights would be pointing up so that led me to consider adding an additional 2 in to the back since I'm adding 1.5 in to the front
 
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