Leveling Kit and Shock Recommendations
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There have been posts from at least one owner of the 20-22 gen who installed a 1.5" lift and said it required no track bar adjustment. The axle was centered with the stock unit. Not sure if the same would be true on the 23+. The Carli track bar might not have enough adjustment to work with a 1.5" lift, not sure if it can adjust short enough. Maybe.
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From: Chaz
According to BDS the 20-24 is going to be 1 inch lower stock, everything else equal.
So 1.5 on a 22 probably doesn’t break that 1 inch threshold a 17-19 needs an adjustable trackbar at. On mine it needed one at 1.5” very clearly.
So 1.5 on a 22 probably doesn’t break that 1 inch threshold a 17-19 needs an adjustable trackbar at. On mine it needed one at 1.5” very clearly.
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The Torklift helper for the lower springs is expensive. 568 is the best price I found
Can I simply swap the rear 3" block for a 4"? 22F250 7.3 CCLB with the camper pkg
ETA What size is the factory block? I've read 3" and now 2". I only want to add one inch of lift in the rear
Can I simply swap the rear 3" block for a 4"? 22F250 7.3 CCLB with the camper pkg
ETA What size is the factory block? I've read 3" and now 2". I only want to add one inch of lift in the rear
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The Torklift helper for the lower springs is expensive. 568 is the best price I found
Can I simply swap the rear 3" block for a 4"? 22F250 7.3 CCLB with the camper pkg
ETA What size is the factory block? I've read 3" and now 2". I only want to add one inch of lift in the rear
Can I simply swap the rear 3" block for a 4"? 22F250 7.3 CCLB with the camper pkg
ETA What size is the factory block? I've read 3" and now 2". I only want to add one inch of lift in the rear
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Frankly I understand why these trucks come looking ridiculous anyway. Why not make them as level as possible and if loaded keep them from sagging so bad. I loved my 08 with the snow prep package. Was able to run a properly sized tire with no level kit. Why not toughen the back end instead of neutering the front suspension to make it level when towing? There should be a toe heavy package and a weekend warrior/daily driver package? I shouldn’t have to pay for tremor or snow plow prep to have a leveled truck.
I don’t mind the stuff ride of a super duty. It’s a big truck not a Cadillac
I don’t mind the stuff ride of a super duty. It’s a big truck not a Cadillac
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What's wrong with buyers having to pay more for a level look?
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I think the reason is that you might be the minority as far as Ford is concerned. Not many owners want a stiffer riding truck for the sake of a look, a look that isn't appealing or wanted by all. The same size tires can fit with base coils that can with plow prep or a level. You must not have looked closely enough at a Tremor pkg truck, they have a good amount of rake too. The coils give a small lift and to compensate for that they include a taller rear block. Even the plow springs (plow prep) doesn't give a true level if that's what you want. They give tops 1" over base springs. Most of these trucks come in at 2-2.5" of rake. Even more in the 17-19 trucks.
What's wrong with buyers having to pay more for a level look?
What's wrong with buyers having to pay more for a level look?
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I think the reason is that you might be the minority as far as Ford is concerned. Not many owners want a stiffer riding truck for the sake of a look, a look that isn't appealing or wanted by all. The same size tires can fit with base coils that can with plow prep or a level. You must not have looked closely enough at a Tremor pkg truck, they have a good amount of rake too. The coils give a small lift and to compensate for that they include a taller rear block. Even the plow springs (plow prep) doesn't give a true level if that's what you want. They give tops 1" over base springs. Most of these trucks come in at 2-2.5" of rake. Even more in the 17-19 trucks.
What's wrong with buyers having to pay more for a level look?
What's wrong with buyers having to pay more for a level look?
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ironically enough the title of this thread wasn’t how do I make my truck level while towing. It was how do I make my truck look natural while in its natural state. So it would make more sense to me that there would be a package for this of use that wants a normal look while unloaded. That’s all.
I do not use my truck for towing but also don't care for a level stance. My '19 has 3" of rake and I still think it's a great looking truck. Could it be less, sure, but it doesn't bother me. Not sure if you remember the previous gen, when the 350 sat higher in the rear than the 250. The level look of that gen 250 looked off to me, I did not like it. Don't mistake that for meaning I don't think you or anyone else shouldn't want to level their trucks, by all means do what you like, I just don't see why a manufacturer should cater to that. Especially considering it's so cheap and easy for the end user to add a level kit if they want.
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We must be looking at different threads because the title of this thread is nothing like you say haha. Also, earlier I said as far as Ford is concerned you may be the minority. I am not Ford. Since when is level a "normal look" for an unloaded truck?
I do not use my truck for towing but also don't care for a level stance. My '19 has 3" of rake and I still think it's a great looking truck. Could it be less, sure, but it doesn't bother me. Not sure if you remember the previous gen, when the 350 sat higher in the rear than the 250. The level look of that gen 250 looked off to me, I did not like it. Don't mistake that for meaning I don't think you or anyone else shouldn't want to level their trucks, by all means do what you like, I just don't see why a manufacturer should cater to that. Especially considering it's so cheap and easy for the end user to add a level kit if they want.
I do not use my truck for towing but also don't care for a level stance. My '19 has 3" of rake and I still think it's a great looking truck. Could it be less, sure, but it doesn't bother me. Not sure if you remember the previous gen, when the 350 sat higher in the rear than the 250. The level look of that gen 250 looked off to me, I did not like it. Don't mistake that for meaning I don't think you or anyone else shouldn't want to level their trucks, by all means do what you like, I just don't see why a manufacturer should cater to that. Especially considering it's so cheap and easy for the end user to add a level kit if they want.
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ironically enough the title of this thread wasn’t how do I make my truck level while towing. It was how do I make my truck look natural while in its natural state. So it would make more sense to me that there would be a package for this of use that wants a normal look while unloaded. That’s all.
what you're asking for is the best of both worlds, a level soft riding truck that doesn't sag when loaded. lol. airbags kind of do that but they have limits as well with ride quality. Mine rides nice with and without the trailer. it definitely sags with my trailer though....pretty badly depending on how the tongue weight is loaded