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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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GM and Ram can make all the changes they want. I purchased my Ford because it is capable, not because it's pretty.
I totally agree.

Ram & GM aren’t even close with their sissy suspensions.

17 & up Super Duty’s are the best looking trucks on the road. Period
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BROWN DOG KTM
I totally agree.

Ram & GM aren’t even close with their sissy suspensions.

17 & up Super Duty’s are the best looking trucks on the road. Period
What's sissy on the 3500 Ram's suspension?
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 01:32 PM
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What's sissy on the 3500 Ram's suspension?
Tracking arm, pitman arm, front ball joints, front wheel bearings etc

thwy have improved a lot tho in the last 10yrs I’ll admit.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
I must admit, that's one of the lesser nauseating 23+ front ends I've seen.

It would be nice if manufacturers chose a consistent design language and stuck with it instead of completely changing everything every two years. For example, even though the headlights themselves are continually evolving, all Porsche DRL's still have the 4 dots, so you know it's a Porsche.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 06:20 PM
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I like the regular XLT front end on the 23's. Not a fan of those little dash things on the Lariat. I also like how the lights and grill are separate and not just one big fascia where the lights are sort of "hidden" in the grill like it is on the higher trims.

 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rna352
It would be nice if manufacturers chose a consistent design language and stuck with it instead of completely changing everything every two years. For example, even though the headlights themselves are continually evolving, all Porsche DRL's still have the 4 dots, so you know it's a Porsche.
screw design language, maybe keep the same damn headlights (or even front end body panels) for more than 3 years so people can have a better chance of sourcing OEM parts out of warranty as either new parts or used units.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pappcam
I like the regular XLT front end on the 23's. Not a fan of those little dash things on the Lariat. I also like how the lights and grill are separate and not just one big fascia where the lights are sort of "hidden" in the grill like it is on the higher trims.

I did a little swapping back and forth and in person I liked the chrome grille inserts best but I didn’t mind them blacked out either. Here’s a pic of the chrome with the black inserts

its just a simple 5 minute swap whenever I get bored of either look





and I know some will say it’s a truck so who cares but I like the daytime running light c-bars too much to give away

 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 06:43 PM
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The 2023 XL is a clean simple front end. The 2wd has such a road truck stance.

Sitting next to this monsterGMC gives a neat view, That GMC is a fully loaded beautiful beast and is a respectable truck.

 
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 05:36 AM
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 06:42 AM
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Chevy shoulda gone retro...




 
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RavenF350
Go back to the 2022 look. We have several ‘24 GMC HD’s on the farm and the guys aren’t real impressed with them when compared to the Ford. Visibility is the biggest complaint because of the hood design. Not real sure why they are blocking visibility the way they are. My 2019 Duramax is bad enough compared to Ford but the ‘20+ is terrible. ‘20+ GM seats are laughable too. Very uncomfortable. They just as well mount actual 5 gallon buckets in there so they can legitimately can claim they have bucket seats.

23+ Super Duty is ugly up front but at least it’s bareable in comparison to GM. RAM isn’t bad to look at, I just won’t own another one.
I am glad I'm not the only one who felt this way. Test drove a new GMC and could not see over the hood no matter how I adjusted the uncomfortable seat. Haven't had a Ford since 2005, awaiting delivery of a 24 Lariat now and can't wait.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 09:06 AM
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Ford needs to make the parentheses around the headlights bigger and bolder. To continue the evolution of making it uglier.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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Seems like GM dropped the ball with having the hood/front clip higher than the beltline on the rest of the truck. Makes visibility difficult as many have stated.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 6.8L_V8_DRW
The 2023 XL is a clean simple front end. The 2wd has such a road truck stance.

Sitting next to this monsterGMC gives a neat view, That GMC is a fully loaded beautiful beast and is a respectable truck.
This is a prime example of Fords sloped hood that I'm not a fan of. All prior truck platforms didn't have that slope with a bigger grill just look better IMO. My '12 doesn't have much of a sloped hood and visibility is excellent.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 10:44 AM
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Yes the '20 - '22's look better but I don't hate the '23+ and think it's still much better looking than the Ram or GMC......no point in mentioning the Chevy! LOL

Dave
 
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