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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 10:42 PM
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Recommended oil - Engine, Manual Trans and Diff?

What say you all? Looking for wisdom from the forum on what to run in my new-to-me ‘69 F250 (manual trans, diff and 360) as far as oil weights?

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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 01:00 AM
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You want a motor oil with a high zinc concentration (ZDDP). Modern oils don't have it due to emissions requirements. Motorcraft makes a 15W-40 diesel oil for Powerstrokes that is high in zinc, and is available at Walmart. Depends on what part of the country you are at, cold or warm.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 02:00 PM
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For the trans make sure it is GL4 listed and not the GL5 you find now days.
Because of that I drained and filled my NP435 with Red Line MT90 oil.
It is the same oil in my Advance Adapter over drive unit.
In the rear good old w80-90 gear oil.
If you have LS then add a bottle of lube for it.

Motor oil I have been using O'Reilly's for high mileage 10-30 or 10-40.
Put 28K on it in 4 years with out any issues.
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 02:58 PM
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I just saw on Motor Trend a few hours ago that you only need zinc for flat tappet cams & rocker arms . Yes our trucks have rocker arms but , their answer referring to the rocker arms is vague to me .
Motorcraft has synthetic manual transmission fluid that is recommended
I have been reading 5w - 30 for Winter in cold climates , mayb not Arizona ,
Yes , I have heard the zinc thing from people , but I think the need has been exaggerated over the years because someone saw a dragster use it for a flat tappet cam & then oh , it must be good for my car/truck . Then companies push people to push this idea in exchange for free stuff sent to them !
The more I learn from Hot-Rod , Motor Trend , Professional hot-rodders there is countless myths & HALF-TRUTHS from manufactures to sell products !!! MARKETING , MARKETING , MARKETING , PROFESSIONAL SALESMAN .
There is certainly more to the story & I will stop for now .
I AM as guilty as anybody for falling bigger is better , or buying stuff I DO NOT REALLY NEED , but I must need it because they , SAY I DO . They use it in drag cars or the commercial says I do . Commercials are the LAIRS !!!, Hot-Rod , Motor Trend usually debunks/test these questionable companies !!!
Yes Hot-Rod is guilty of this practice at times but I feel mainly they give TRUE facts that are reliable and back up there opinions !!! They do promote sponsored/non-sponsored companies , and their products . For the most part though they test their information and pass it along because they truly care about us and our trucks & cars........ They constantly test myths & products
This is why they have been trusted since the 1940's and today !!!.......ha...
Anyway , hope you THINK fairly & with give some time about my rants , because I have learned a lot , this is how I found this AMAZING SITE & mostly great mechanics and GOOD people !!!...ha...
 
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My newbie is showing in my last post !!! I did not realize F100's have flat tappet cams, . I was thinking zinc was recommended for the benefit for the pistons and crank mainly, not cam & rocker !!! So , now I know the zinc myth is true , I guess,
I still stand by the post , because do we really know EXACTLY how much of a benefit & NEED zinc is for a old Ford ???,
May just be good marketing !!!
I will be going with hydrollic roller cam is one reason I am flat tappet handicapped ,
 
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 07:50 AM
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Yes on the zinc. There are oils available for older engines...like Valvoline 10W30 VR1 racing oil which contain the zinc additive to protect the flat tappet cam. It's not a myth, it is the best choice for flat tappets. Though you'll likely get by with modern oil I don't believe the cost difference is significant so I'd go for the correct oil.

In my NP435, I use a 50 weight motor oil without the zinc additive which can degrade the brass bits in the tranny.

And for the rear, good ol' 80ish - 90ish gear oil. Use the additive if you have the limited slip clutches.
 
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Motorcraft has a synthetic manual transmission oil that is highly impressive according to its label !!!
Label was created with lots of advice from Motorcraft's highly paid marketing team ,
It is high dollar...........of course
Label convinced me to buy it.......... ha...........
 
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