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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 11:15 AM
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Adding Acoustic Insulation Under Carpet Delete Possible?

For those with the carpet delete (vinyl floor covering) option - is it possible to add acoustic insulation under it?

In other words, can the vinyl floor covering be easily detached and reattached to the floor?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 11:24 AM
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The factory vinyl flooring already has acoustic insulation (thick jute material padding, just like carpet has) attached to it underneath.

The assembly of vinyl flooring with jute padding attached, is easily detachable from the metal floor of the truck (once seats, seat belts, consoles, and any electronic modules are unplugged and removed), and removes and installs just like the OEM carpeting does.

So if you are trying to add something like Dynamat self adhering sheets to the metal floor, the procedures of removing and reinstalling the vinyl floor will not differ appreciably from a carpeted floor.

If by "detach" you are referring to detaching the OEM vinyl floor from the jute padding attached to the underside of the vinyl material, it would be no different than chiseling off the jute padding attached to the underside of the carpet material. (The carpet material has a vinyl rubber backing)
 
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 11:53 AM
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Yeah its fine as is, had the same optioned truck with carpet and also with the vinyl option.

Assuming this is an ordering question, not trying to he a know it all if it bothers you on your current truck.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
The factory vinyl flooring already has acoustic insulation (thick jute material padding, just like carpet has) attached to it underneath.

The assembly of vinyl flooring with jute padding attached, is easily detachable from the metal floor of the truck (once seats, seat belts, consoles, and any electronic modules are unplugged and removed), and removes and installs just like the OEM carpeting does.

So if you are trying to add something like Dynamat self adhering sheets to the metal floor, the procedures of removing and reinstalling the vinyl floor will not differ appreciably from a carpeted floor.

If by "detach" you are referring to detaching the OEM vinyl floor from the jute padding attached to the underside of the vinyl material, it would be no different than chiseling off the jute padding attached to the underside of the carpet material. (The carpet material has a vinyl rubber backing)
Awesome - thank you!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 12:55 PM
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Like mentioned the “premium vinyl” has a thick padding under it and on my 2020 platinum there was actually what looked like some spray on epoxy section sprayed on the floor. I added more sound deadening as I already had the seats, console and flooring removed and the material bought for it. I did the floor, doors and back wall. In hind sight I should have done the roof also while I was at it would make a big difference I bet. If I ever have to pull the head liner I’ll add some for sure.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2023 | 09:58 PM
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Like mentioned the “premium vinyl” has a thick padding under it and on my 2020 platinum there was actually what looked like some spray on epoxy section sprayed on the floor. I added more sound deadening as I already had the seats, console and flooring removed and the material bought for it. I did the floor, doors and back wall. In hind sight I should have done the roof also while I was at it would make a big difference I bet. If I ever have to pull the head liner I’ll add some for sure.
Yeah thermal and acoustic insulation is on my list. Hate to tear into a new truck but getting less tolerant of noise every year past the big 6-0.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 09:51 AM
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Under and around the rear seat is where I would suggest starting. There has been a noticeable difference with the rear seat raised my my crew cabs (upper trim levels) with sound.

Note to self I may do this area when I get around to doing the sound system in my KR.

I also should install vinyl, bought this one used. But its in good shape.


The thing about the vinyl is if you live in a high humidity area and its nasty muddy out etc you dont have that weird saturation crap into the carpet. Hard to explain. And yes I clean my truck regularly. Probably dust reduction in dry areas as well.


I work in construction so this applies to me.
 
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Joe T makes a good point about insulating around, under, and behind the rear seat area... which seems counterintuitive, given that the engine is upfront.

But it is the rear cab wall cab vents that admit a LOT of road noise into the cab, and that road noise includes the engine noise... sound waves that are bouncing back up off the road into the cab vents, which are open whenever the HVAC fan is on, to relieve pressure build up in the cab.

While one should never block the cab vents function, the addition of soft, dense, yet air permeable materials behind the back seat can really make a difference in quieting the cab.
 
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Joe T makes a good point about insulating around, under, and behind the rear seat area... which seems counterintuitive, given that the engine is upfront.

But it is the rear cab wall cab vents that admit a LOT of road noise into the cab, and that road noise includes the engine noise... sound waves that are bouncing back up off the road into the cab vents, which are open whenever the HVAC fan is on, to relieve pressure build up in the cab.

While one should never block the cab vents function, the addition of soft, dense, yet air permeable materials behind the back seat can really make a difference in quieting the cab.
This is a great point and I can confirm that a lot of noise enters the cabin from these vents. I actually built a baffle over mine and lined it with insulation to help with this. Made a big difference.
 
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Joe T makes a good point about insulating around, under, and behind the rear seat area... which seems counterintuitive, given that the engine is upfront.

But it is the rear cab wall cab vents that admit a LOT of road noise into the cab, and that road noise includes the engine noise... sound waves that are bouncing back up off the road into the cab vents, which are open whenever the HVAC fan is on, to relieve pressure build up in the cab.

While one should never block the cab vents function, the addition of soft, dense, yet air permeable materials behind the back seat can really make a difference in quieting the cab.
Great tip - thank you!

Any recommendations RE material type?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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In hind sight I should have done the roof also while I was at it would make a big difference I bet. If I ever have to pull the head liner I’ll add some for sure.
Be careful. There are exploders (airbags) up there.
 
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