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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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Budget 514 Stroker

What is the cheapest, sorry most inexpensive and easiest way to make a 514 stroker. What things should I look for in the motor (preferred year etc.), in the parts? I would still like to run pump gas, premium if necessary. Does that cause problems? If so are there any work arounds? I plan to run full after market heads, headders, carb, if that makes a difference. And a shopping list would help too.

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P.S. I am not looking for outragious hp just enough to make those mustang guys take notice when I step on it (give the chevy guys something to talk about too lol). And I just like the idea of being able to say I have over 500 cubic inches under the hood.
 

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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How about this paw performance offers a complete long block in kit form, block and heads the works. You assemble it. YOu can get a 460 stroker displacing 490 cubic inches includes forged rods and pistons three angle valve job and so on for $3295. Or they offer a 460 bored and stroked to 521 cubic inches long block kit you assemble $3595. That should make some hp and tq. Hope that helps some, later
 
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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no I got several SEVERAL 460s already and I want to do it my self (assembly not machining). Also It has to be less expensive to build rather than buy right?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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http://www.speedomotive.com/ford_460..._crank_kit.htm

You do have to assemble the PAW performance kits I menioned, but all the pieces are there. Well the link above has the 514 crank pistons and rods forged and it runs $1995 figure in reconditioning your heads prepping the block you might very well reach 3000+ depends on your machinists' prices. Good luck with it. For a budget you might consider a strong forged bottom end smooth out the heads a decent cam and a big old shot of nitros oxide. Then you would have street manners and full on get up and go at the touch of a button. Something to think about, I guess. Good luck with your project.

here is another price just for the rotating assembly

http://www.strokerkits.com/460_514.htm

it isn't cheap to stroke the 460 thats for sure. later
 

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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All the cranks i have seen are for the new externaly balanced 460's are there any for the internal ones?

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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I am not familiar with 460's in general, but I thought all 460's were externally balanced so maybe someone else should answer your question. I thought the inline six was the only internally balanced engine I could think of. Maybe someone will jump in and let you know for sure. later
 
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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All the 460s were internaly balanced until about 79 from what a gather from other posts. All of mine apear to be internaly balanced.

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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Well live and learn, appears your right, you may have to contact the manufacturer then. Good luck
 
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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I might be way off here and I'm in no way a machinist but if you're going stroker doesn't the 514 setup have to balanced anyway. They make dampers for internally balanced engines and wouldn't the speed/machine balance out all your rotating parts based on your crank weight with pistons, rings, rods, crank bearings, flywheel and damper. This is a interesting subject because my next stroker project will be a big block.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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Possably but all the ones i have seen say fro externaly balanced engines. There has to be more diffence between the two cranks than being able to just switch some parts arond to make it work. Athough if thats all there is it would be great!

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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Home built Strokers do need to be balanced at a repituable machine shop.

I'm not sure about the kits that include the blocks though.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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We are getting off topic, I know they need to be balanced but what i do knot know is if there are stroker cranks avalible for the internaly balanced 460's.

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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Yes there are stroker cranks available as internally balanced versions. Even ones that say they are for externally balanced engines can be made to be internally balanced. You'll need a bit of cash though as it may take a chunk of mallory to do it.

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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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So what you are telling me is that all 460 cranks are the same and all that is needed to use say a mid 80's crank in a 70's block is the balancer? Is that what you ment or am i totaly lost?

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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:06 PM
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They are all the same as far as bearing size, spacing, snout, etc. The only difference is, some are internally balanced while others required a small external counter weight. Even the "externally" balanced cranks can be made to be internally balanced by your machinist, however this will cost a bit of money for time and materials.
 
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