New video -- just came across this and passing along for your information.

 

Interesting, thanks for sharing. Since I already have the SPE reroute kit (with internal catch can), I'll have to really think about whether to go the external catch can route or spring for the new recirculating box. Since I've been running the reroute hose behind the cab and along the frame for some time now, the only side effect I've noticed so far (other than the occasional odor) is a light coating of oil residue on surfaces close to the end of the hose. Nothing to be alarmed about, but obviously that should probably be trapped.

The primary purpose for installing the kit was to eliminate oil vapor from being ingested into the intake system. I'd really like to see results of the recirculating box over time, or some hard data as to whether there is a large reduction of oil vapor with that recirculating box. But, I do like the design and ease of serviceability. But, a catch can would work for my needs as well.

Guess I'll ponder the two options for a bit, but I'm open to either alternative. I'm liking what he says about the recirculating box, but only if proven to be much more effective than the OEM box would it be a consideration. However, that external catch can absolutely eliminates the oil into the intake issue, for sure. Pondering, pondering...

Edit: Just checked their web site for availability and pricing. Looks like both alternatives are priced roughly the same, and more than I was expecting. But, guess I'll have to start working on getting on Santa's nice list, pronto!

 

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but, I’m not sure if this is needed if you have a bypass filter installed or are using one of those 9 micron oil filters…reason tuning is with higher filtration the oil is less soot laiden and the crust crude we all see in the throttle body area is mostly due to the soot from the egr .since during the video SPEadmits oil will still get thru on one hand and on the other if you divert the ol mist from the engine case vent …then to loose the lube value of that mist to the upper valves , upper valve seats and upper most piston rings.

on the other hand…getting rid of the stock solution if it uses a filter element would probally be my priority since those elements clogg and blow out pan gaskets.

 

Yep no problem... If you have their bypass already installed, I'd think you'd lean towards their catch can to get rid of the occasional odor of the vapor..

Sounds like their CCV box does a better job at getting more oil vapors back into the engine and not the intake but that some still gets by. Would be interesting to see the results of running that box on a stock truck let alone a tuned truck pushing more PSI than a stocker...

The catch can is huge but probably because they are in PA where it gets cold like here in NY in winter, because catch cans start collecting a lot more moisture during those times, like my Mishimoto catch can. I never have to drain mine during the summer weather because it's all oil. But winter, i do it by 500 miles or by 750 miles or so... Water collects quickly and my can is smaller.

I'd MAYBE think about getting their can and installing it on the Mishimoto can hoses, if possible but MAYBE... And it's a big maybe...

I have my catch can sitting on a piece of wood on top of the fuse box on the driver's side because it mounted where the SNAPP filter is for my S&S DPK kit... I extended the hoses and used stainless steel hose menders I found online.

The Mishi oil can kit has adapters that sit on those ports. Then the factory CCV box mounts back on top of valve cover... Where the vapor goes to the can.

 

I'd love to see how that filter replacement does. I really like the design, if it was available when I put on my catch can, I may have gone that route instead. No way I'm pulling off the Mishmoto can, that thing was a bear to install. I like the option though!

 

Yeah, I'd see if the hoses matched up and use my hose menders I have on mine now, but I bet theirs are bigger or I'd have to buy new ones. Just thinking out loud is all...

I wouldn't replace my stock box with theirs though... plus I believe mine has a sensor on the hose going to the intake I believe.

 

is anyone ubderstanding if you can use the new SPE square box with a catch can?

 

Sounds like the only way to use their new box with their catch can, is to have their relocation kit already installed. Because it sounds like you can add their catch can to the CCV relocation kit, to catch the vapor instead of venting to the atmosphere.

He talks in the video on how you can use their "internal" catch can aka cheese grater looking item, with the box. The internal can be used with the relocation kit I believe... If I'm wrong, someone please correct me since I have zero experience with their stuff.

 

Not clear how the oil that the box collects goes back into the engine…any drain hole in the box would be fighting engine crack cas pressure .

soft it only drains when th engine is off…that does not provide much capacity for long trips.

 

No clue but there is a small hole in the bottom of their box where it drains he said... and I saw it on the video. The baffles are designed to force the vapors to the stainless steel mesh filter, allowing the gases to flow through and the oil gets collected on the mesh:

"Advanced Filtration System: At the heart of our recirculating CCV kit is an injection-molded, double-layered stainless steel filtration screen. This screen is engineered to support high horsepower applications, effectively filtering crankcase vapors while maintaining optimal flow rates. The innovative single bolt design allows for easy cleaning and maintenance, ensuring long-term performance and reliability.

Baffle System for Optimal Functionality: Our kit features multiple baffle areas, strategically placed to ensure that vapor within the box is forced through the filtration system. This design significantly reduces oil saturation in the intercooler/ charge air system, a common issue with the factory CCV system, thereby enhancing the overall health and performance of your engine and components."

Looking further into this, their CCV internal catch can is an add-on to their CCV relocation kit. It can't be used without the relocation kit.

Also from their website:

"Versatile Compatibility and Installation:The recirculating CCV kit is compatible with various setups, including those with existing internal catch cans. It offers a versatile solution for those looking to retain certain aspects of their current system while upgrading to a more efficient crankcase ventilation setup."

It definitely sounds like you need their relocation kit to use their new oil catch can.

"Versatile and Compatible:Designed with adaptability in mind, the external catch can works seamlessly with various CCV setups. Whether your truck is an everyday ride or highly modified, this catch can integrates smoothly, ensuring optimal crankcase ventilation."

The Mishimoto can uses 5/8 inch hoses... theirs uses 3/4 inch. While it does pique my interest, it would be a PITA to try to get it to work with the Mishimoto adapters already installed and now with the S&S DPK filter mounted in the area as well... it makes sense though for guys with SPE's CCV relocation kit or another brand's where they could tie in this catch can.

 

The vapor odor doesn't really bother me, it's not overpowering or obnoxious (not to me, at least). My concern is the light coating of oil collecting on nearby surfaces at the end of the hose due to the vapor that's being vented. It's not like the area is dripping with oil, but I imagine over time that area is going to be a dirt magnet and get pretty grungy. As far as capturing odors, I don't think the catch can will do much regarding the odor, anyway, as that's still vented (it'd have to have some venting, obviously). However, it should resolve the oil suspended in the vapor, surely. Plus, with my internal "cheese grater" being the first stage of condensing oil vapor, then the catch can providing a second stage, that might just do the trick. So, yeah, I'm now leaning toward their external catch can.

I can't really see how the two are so near together in price, however. I'd think that the external catch can would be a lot less, but it does have moving parts that have to be precision machined. I'm just balking a little at the price for the can; it's a little steep, and I'm wondering if going with something less expensive will work just as well. I reckon I'll do a little research and shopping. I'll take a look at the Mishimotos, as well.

 

I have a CCV with reroute to frame rail. Doesn't drip much oil, but i cannot stand the smell. Especially startups in cold weather.

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I could use some help here. I am looking for something to help. I am not at all opposed to putting back into the intake, however this rig has an MPD intake and intercooler piping kit with no bung for CCV line on the intake. Would one of these SPE products work if I had a bung welded to the MPD intake?
2013 6.7L no erg/dpf

 

No worries...

Since you already have a CCV relocation kit installed, why don't you just think about using their new catch can? This way you wouldn't be putting anything back into the intake and you wouldn't smell anything anymore.

But technically you could weld a bung onto the MPD intake to mount to attach the hose from the new SPE box. I've heard of them and have seen their products. I'll look at their intakes later...

 

is adding the catch can going to create more restriction so more pressure is needed to vent? Wasn't there people saying you shouldn't add extra hose length to a re route kit due to pressure issues?

 

ao yea, back pressure will increase…by how much?

the acceptable back pressure range for th 6.7 is 2.5 to 6.0 psi

so that brings up a good point…let’s say stock back pressure is 2.5, and you have oil in the brake system from the ccv…so you put in a wiz bang aftermarket ccv solution and let’s say your new back pressure is 6.0, and now you have lesson in the intake system from ccv…..so…would that be a good thing.