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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 03:56 PM
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LED headlights don't work

I purchased and installed some (expensive) LED headlight bulbs for my '01 E250. The low beams work great, but the high beams wont stay on. They will be on for awhile, then flip off, then back on, off.. the timing is completely random and not predictable.

I contacted the seller and they sent me a pair of "decoders" that wire in-line prior to the bulbs, but they don't make any difference.

Before I throw these bulbs in the trash, does anyone know what's causing this? Or, has anyone purchased good LED headlight bulbs (style 9007) that really work well in their van?

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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 05:02 PM
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Do you have another car to try them in? Can you hook up a bulb directly to a 12V source?

Are there additional elements for high beam or is there a mechanical shutter like in bi-xenons?

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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tabijan
Do you have another car to try them in? Can you hook up a bulb directly to a 12V source?

Are there additional elements for high beam or is there a mechanical shutter like in bi-xenons?

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I'll take them out and try them on the bench using a 12V source - that should eliminate the possibility of bad connectors (maybe). Unfortunately the problem is random so I don't know how to set it off.

No mechanical shutters - nothing like that. Van is a 2001 E250.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 05:45 PM
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Almost a year ago I put these
Amazon Amazon
on my 2006E250.
Fantastic cutoff, lots of good light where it counts.
~5000 miles so far, I am very pleased with them.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by WoodsStalker
Almost a year ago I put these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08TQ...5-1f12c69b569f
on my 2006E250.
Fantastic cutoff, lots of good light where it counts.
~5000 miles so far, I am very pleased with them.
Thanks. I'd have to swap over to the sealed-beam style light, but maybe it would be worth it.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 08:20 PM
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What are these expensive LED bulbs? Did the truck have any headlight issues before the bulb swap? Any flickering or pulsing with the halogens?

I've had Beamtech headlight bulbs in my 11 E250 for the past couple years with absolutely no issues, but all the other LED bulbs I put in the truck at the same time died at various intervals and have been replaced so clearly these things are not all created equal... some are much better than others.
However I also have LED headlight bulbs in several other vehicles with no issues so it would seem to me your truck has a problem.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 08:28 PM
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I've had Beamtech headlight bulbs in my 11 E250 for the past couple years with absolutely no issues
Mine are the same - they are Beamtech bulbs.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2023 | 08:43 PM
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Our 04 Ranger and the new to us 2010 Ranger also have Beamtechs in them with no issues.
 
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Just had a thought, Are your bulbs fan cooled? If so you have to make sure when reinstalling the fixtures in the van that the wiring(or anything else) doesn't get jambed up behind the lights and prevent the fans from operating as that would lead to overheating pretty quickly. If the bulbs have built-in protection that may be what you are seeing.. they shut themselves off to prevent self destruction.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Just had a thought, Are your bulbs fan cooled? If so you have to make sure when reinstalling the fixtures in the van that the wiring doesn't get jambed up behind the lights and prevent the fans from operating as that would lead to overheating pretty quickly. If the bulbs have built-in protection that may be what you are seeing.. they shut themselves off to prevent self destruction.
Good thought, but no, bulbs are not fan cooled.

I need to do some more testing - I also need to check into the wiring or possibly even problems with the high/lo switch.

A simple bulb swap turned into hours if work! LOL..
 
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Random thought. The van turns off the low beams when the switch is in high beam (push stalk forward). Both light in flash (pull stalk back). Maybe the LEDs need 12V to both low and high contacts to function as high beams. Check if they flicker while holding the switch in flash.

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Old Nov 22, 2023 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tabijan
Random thought. The van turns off the low beams when the switch is in high beam (push stalk forward). Both light in flash (pull stalk back). Maybe the LEDs need 12V to both low and high contacts to function as high beams. Check if they flicker while holding the switch in flash.
OP's symptom description suggest a defective bulb/unit rather than any chassis wiring issues, the intermittant nature raising the most suspicion for me. If this was a chassis wiring issue this could most lkely be easily repeated until it was corrected.

I'd follow any installation/wiring suggestions the supplier provides relative to switching and wire gauges. No clue how an in-line "decoder" was supposed to work but unless the bulbs/units were excessively high amp draw they should be simple plug-n-play with stock factory wiring.

What brand are these?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2023 | 09:29 AM
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Beamtech mentioned in post 7.

IIRC decoders are fitted so the BCM doesn’t think a bulb is bad because of the low current draw. I don’t think these vans have such logic. Decoders have nothing to do with LED function.

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Old Nov 22, 2023 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by N147JK
I purchased and installed some (expensive) LED headlight bulbs for my '01 E250. The low beams work great, but the high beams wont stay on. They will be on for awhile, then flip off, then back on, off.. the timing is completely random and not predictable.

I contacted the seller and they sent me a pair of "decoders" that wire in-line prior to the bulbs, but they don't make any difference.

Before I throw these bulbs in the trash, does anyone know what's causing this? Or, has anyone purchased good LED headlight bulbs (style 9007) that really work well in their van?

- Thanks
IMO the ONLY things out there are 100% worthless crap reguardless of price or the OG .... JB Speaker headlights. NOTHING out there is better than the stock bulb other than the JB speakers. they are $400 a pop though... so whatever your problem is, keep fussing with chinese problems or go back to stock or go OG
 
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Old Nov 22, 2023 | 01:37 PM
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IIRC decoders are fitted so the BCM doesn’t think a bulb is bad because of the low current draw. I don’t think these vans have such logic. Decoders have nothing to do with LED function.
Yes I think this is correct. Beamtech sent me decoders.. for an old Ford van with a dirt simple headlight system. For our vans, I'm guessing the decoders are worthless. I think they're just throwing something at the problem, hoping it will go away.
 
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