Brake rotor/pads recommendations
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I had 2 complete sets of Powerstop extreme brakes/rotors. 1st one I installed, the 2nd were installed by a shop. I had to replace both sets within 8k miles due to warpage. Customer service from them was rude and of 0 help both times. I bought a set of Detroit axle brakes/rotors and installed myself and have over 10k on them with 0 issues. Great bite, no fade. I have them on my Jeep as well.
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I also have the Powerstop Truck 'N Tow on my '11
They've been fine for ~25k but I've come to believe the cheese grater rotors are mostly a gimmick.
If you want better pads you might try Akebono. For rotors, I honestly don't know. RockAuto typically lists some rotors for heavy use that are allegedly "high carbon" and for "fleet" or "severe duty." Maybe worth a shot. Or white box rotors might be just fine for you.
They've been fine for ~25k but I've come to believe the cheese grater rotors are mostly a gimmick.
If you want better pads you might try Akebono. For rotors, I honestly don't know. RockAuto typically lists some rotors for heavy use that are allegedly "high carbon" and for "fleet" or "severe duty." Maybe worth a shot. Or white box rotors might be just fine for you.
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Power stop has been default go-to brand recently. Put their stuff on at least seven or eight different vehicles now (including an F250 and an Excursion).
Power stop stuff has always worked good for me. I do my own installation and follow the break-in procedure written on the box.
IMHO, it’s when people don’t follow the break-in procedure that’s written on the dang box ( maybe they don’t even know there is one because they didn’t do the installation themselves ) is the main reason some people has issues while others just don’t.
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Power stop stuff has always worked good for me. I do my own installation and follow the break-in procedure written on the box.
IMHO, it’s when people don’t follow the break-in procedure that’s written on the dang box ( maybe they don’t even know there is one because they didn’t do the installation themselves ) is the main reason some people has issues while others just don’t.
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Power stop has been default go-to brand recently. Put their stuff on at least seven or eight different vehicles now (including an F250 and an Excursion).
Power stop stuff has always worked good for me. I do my own installation and follow the break-in procedure written on the box.
IMHO, it’s when people don’t follow the break-in procedure that’s written on the dang box ( maybe they don’t even know there is one because they didn’t do the installation themselves ) is the main reason some people has issues while others just don’t.
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Power stop stuff has always worked good for me. I do my own installation and follow the break-in procedure written on the box.
IMHO, it’s when people don’t follow the break-in procedure that’s written on the dang box ( maybe they don’t even know there is one because they didn’t do the installation themselves ) is the main reason some people has issues while others just don’t.
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I have installed many a brake kit that have break-in procedures without issues. Just installed the 3rd high performance kit on my VW that gets abused from Autocross and very spirited driving. Never had any issue with any kit other than the PS kit. And I scratch my head on those 2 kits. Rotors and pads were inspected for cracks as usual. Calipers and slides were inspected and all worked as expected. .
I see that many people have had great performance from the Powerstop kits. I did not and their customer service...well there wasn't any outside of the indignant rudeness I got from them 2x. Besides, I have spent less $$$ on other brands that have yielded better performance and less headache than the PS. Why would I waste $$$ on kits that have excrement for CS and less than desirable service??
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I did follow the break in procedure per instructions...I mean you said instructions are on the box!! And I was in the truck when the shop did the break in procedure on the 2nd kit as well and was followed per procedure as listed on the box. And why would you not follow break in procedure after spending $$$ and putting your family's well being at risk?? Be kind of stupid!
I have installed many a brake kit that have break-in procedures without issues. Just installed the 3rd high performance kit on my VW that gets abused from Autocross and very spirited driving. Never had any issue with any kit other than the PS kit. And I scratch my head on those 2 kits. Rotors and pads were inspected for cracks as usual. Calipers and slides were inspected and all worked as expected. .
I see that many people have had great performance from the Powerstop kits. I did not and their customer service...well there wasn't any outside of the indignant rudeness I got from them 2x. Besides, I have spent less $$$ on other brands that have yielded better performance and less headache than the PS. Why would I waste $$$ on kits that have excrement for CS and less than desirable service??
I have installed many a brake kit that have break-in procedures without issues. Just installed the 3rd high performance kit on my VW that gets abused from Autocross and very spirited driving. Never had any issue with any kit other than the PS kit. And I scratch my head on those 2 kits. Rotors and pads were inspected for cracks as usual. Calipers and slides were inspected and all worked as expected. .
I see that many people have had great performance from the Powerstop kits. I did not and their customer service...well there wasn't any outside of the indignant rudeness I got from them 2x. Besides, I have spent less $$$ on other brands that have yielded better performance and less headache than the PS. Why would I waste $$$ on kits that have excrement for CS and less than desirable service??
As for people not following break in procedures, yeah, happens all the dang time unfortunately . A lot of people either people don't know ,don't care, or don't think its actually necessary, and its not just limited to brakes. Jeep guys will drop $3k plus getting new gears and lockers installed, and then not follow the gear break-in procedure, then complain that yukon gear/ nitro gear/ whatever gears they bought, suck and are just terrible. Mustang guys will do the same with clutches, can’t tell you how many “brand X clutch sucks, didn’t last 1000 miles” threads I’ve seen. Heck, flat tappet cams have a bad reptuation now becasue people don't follow the cam break-ins, and therefore end up wiping lobes sending metal through their new engine.
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I did follow the break in procedure per instructions...I mean you said instructions are on the box!! And I was in the truck when the shop did the break in procedure on the 2nd kit as well and was followed per procedure as listed on the box. And why would you not follow break in procedure after spending $$$ and putting your family's well being at risk?? Be kind of stupid!
I have installed many a brake kit that have break-in procedures without issues. Just installed the 3rd high performance kit on my VW that gets abused from Autocross and very spirited driving. Never had any issue with any kit other than the PS kit. And I scratch my head on those 2 kits. Rotors and pads were inspected for cracks as usual. Calipers and slides were inspected and all worked as expected. .
I see that many people have had great performance from the Powerstop kits. I did not and their customer service...well there wasn't any outside of the indignant rudeness I got from them 2x. Besides, I have spent less $$$ on other brands that have yielded better performance and less headache than the PS. Why would I waste $$$ on kits that have excrement for CS and less than desirable service??
I have installed many a brake kit that have break-in procedures without issues. Just installed the 3rd high performance kit on my VW that gets abused from Autocross and very spirited driving. Never had any issue with any kit other than the PS kit. And I scratch my head on those 2 kits. Rotors and pads were inspected for cracks as usual. Calipers and slides were inspected and all worked as expected. .
I see that many people have had great performance from the Powerstop kits. I did not and their customer service...well there wasn't any outside of the indignant rudeness I got from them 2x. Besides, I have spent less $$$ on other brands that have yielded better performance and less headache than the PS. Why would I waste $$$ on kits that have excrement for CS and less than desirable service??
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You will get a million different answers to leave you more confused than when you posted this.
i have ran several different aftermarket setups and haven't really been pleased with any of them. i've ran cryo rotors and had the worst experience with them. I've ran power stop, power slot, centric and now dynamic friction.
Centric rotors have probably lasted the longest so far.
I have ran hawk pad, power stop/ slot (can't remember but highly recommended) They did the job but nothing really improved over factory.
Centric pads do really well but started getting squeaks here and there around half life. I'm currently testing dynamic friction pads.
I'm going to say this...these "better pads" they are nothing special but one thing I have noticed is they don't perform as well in the cold or initial start of the day. They essentially need to warm up a bit to provide their peak performance.
I do not recommend drilled rotors and the comment about cheese grater, maybe he does not fully understand how slotted rotors work. there is always a trade off even with pads. they will not last as long and can leave more brake dust.
I chose to go slotted rotors for one main reason. yes they will likely wear out the pads a little quicker but they always keep the pads clean with a fresh surface. that is worth the trade off to me.
I have a very long time before I will need brakes again but next run will be EBC rotors and pads.
Raybestos makes good stuff, centric and oem or certain Napa rotors and pads. I am also currently trying out TRQ calipers. I would have went raybestos had i known they make new calipers as I do not want remans because quality is unknown and ford supposedly isn't offering them anymore.
there's another not known brand that is supposedly good but i can't recall the name.
please don't buy into all the hype. in my experience; it's none better than OEM as far as stopping goes. I have not had any of these rotors "warp" I saw very very minor heat/stress cracks starting from the holes in my centric drilled rotors. Not an issue but I still don't recommend them.
Either go with a solid rotor or slotted only. Choose a known name brand pad and you should be fine.
If you like the option to have parts available locally, try to get raybestos or something from napa
You need to fully understand and except the trade offs of performance pads/ rotors if you go that route. Most do not then make false claims about them later
that's the gist of my experience
i have ran several different aftermarket setups and haven't really been pleased with any of them. i've ran cryo rotors and had the worst experience with them. I've ran power stop, power slot, centric and now dynamic friction.
Centric rotors have probably lasted the longest so far.
I have ran hawk pad, power stop/ slot (can't remember but highly recommended) They did the job but nothing really improved over factory.
Centric pads do really well but started getting squeaks here and there around half life. I'm currently testing dynamic friction pads.
I'm going to say this...these "better pads" they are nothing special but one thing I have noticed is they don't perform as well in the cold or initial start of the day. They essentially need to warm up a bit to provide their peak performance.
I do not recommend drilled rotors and the comment about cheese grater, maybe he does not fully understand how slotted rotors work. there is always a trade off even with pads. they will not last as long and can leave more brake dust.
I chose to go slotted rotors for one main reason. yes they will likely wear out the pads a little quicker but they always keep the pads clean with a fresh surface. that is worth the trade off to me.
I have a very long time before I will need brakes again but next run will be EBC rotors and pads.
Raybestos makes good stuff, centric and oem or certain Napa rotors and pads. I am also currently trying out TRQ calipers. I would have went raybestos had i known they make new calipers as I do not want remans because quality is unknown and ford supposedly isn't offering them anymore.
there's another not known brand that is supposedly good but i can't recall the name.
please don't buy into all the hype. in my experience; it's none better than OEM as far as stopping goes. I have not had any of these rotors "warp" I saw very very minor heat/stress cracks starting from the holes in my centric drilled rotors. Not an issue but I still don't recommend them.
Either go with a solid rotor or slotted only. Choose a known name brand pad and you should be fine.
If you like the option to have parts available locally, try to get raybestos or something from napa
You need to fully understand and except the trade offs of performance pads/ rotors if you go that route. Most do not then make false claims about them later
that's the gist of my experience
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100% agree. I used to do a lot of towing with my 02 F350. Tried aftermarket rotors and pads two times. Warping issues each time. Finally went back to Motorcraft and haven't had any problems.
That's the only time I went off the Motorcraft reservation buying parts for my baby. She has almost 600k on her and still going strong.
Checked the compression a few thousand milea ago. All cylinders running 440-450 psi.
That's the only time I went off the Motorcraft reservation buying parts for my baby. She has almost 600k on her and still going strong.
Checked the compression a few thousand milea ago. All cylinders running 440-450 psi.
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