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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 08:03 AM
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2023 Tire pressure sensor fail

I ordered new tires and wheels mounted and balanced with TPMS (GAU-33500G - Gorilla EZ-Sensor TPMS). While waiting on my new tires and wheels I sold my factory tires and wheels (pending arrival of my new ones). Anyway, installed new tires and wheels and drove it for a couple days and TPMS fail announcement didn't go away and still no pressure readings on the display. Took it to the tire shop to get the sensors reprogrammed and they said the sensors were incompatible. They installed Autel sensors. Still no joy and was told it had to take it to the dealership. At the dealership I they told me they couldn't help because I didn't have factory sensors. So, long story short tire shop can't figure it out and dealership won't help. I tried putting the pickup in learn mode and releasing air from the left front but could only get the double honk. Does anyone have any ideas?
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 08:12 AM
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I would go to Rock Auto and buy real TPMS sensors instead of the cheap junk. Doesn't Schrader make the sensors for Ford? They make them for other brands. Usually you can buy Schrader sensors fairly inexpensively. Part # 20280 worked through 2020, may be the same for 2023.

Edit: Looks like Rock Auto has the Motorcraft sensors for $46 bucks.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 09:55 AM
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I see Ford electronics still only like to play with Motorcraft parts. Been that way for decades - I wouldn't put much for aftermarket electronics on any Ford product, they just don't seem to play well together.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 10:03 AM
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Sounds in addition to your original problems, your tire shop sold you incompatible sensors. I hope they didn't charge, because they shouldn't
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 11:11 AM
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"While waiting on my new tires and wheels I sold my factory tires and wheels (pending arrival of my new ones)"

My random question is...did you just leave your truck on jacks while you waiting?
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 12:29 PM
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did you just leave your truck on jacks while you waiting? Negative. Hence the pending arrival of my new tires. Shoot, he even helped me do the swap!
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 01:55 PM
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Sounds like it could be the tire store you are dealing with is defective...
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 03:13 PM
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2023 sensors are 433 mhz despite what is online and the dealer tells you. I had the same issue when I traded my 2020 and tried to swap wheels over. Ended up having to order new ones to make it work. The only way we discovered this was to scan the oem take offs with a scanner at the tire shop.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2023 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainIPSC
I ordered new tires and wheels mounted and balanced with TPMS (GAU-33500G - Gorilla EZ-Sensor TPMS). While waiting on my new tires and wheels I sold my factory tires and wheels (pending arrival of my new ones). Anyway, installed new tires and wheels and drove it for a couple days and TPMS fail announcement didn't go away and still no pressure readings on the display. Took it to the tire shop to get the sensors reprogrammed and they said the sensors were incompatible. They installed Autel sensors. Still no joy and was told it had to take it to the dealership. At the dealership I they told me they couldn't help because I didn't have factory sensors. So, long story short tire shop can't figure it out and dealership won't help. I tried putting the pickup in learn mode and releasing air from the left front but could only get the double honk. Does anyone have any ideas?
As mentioned below, they are most likely 433mhz, not 315. But if the shop/person doing the initial programming doesn't have the tool up to date, or just clicks the wrong thing, they will get set to 315. Autel's can easily be reprogrammed while in the tire (with an Autel Tool) Info below from the Autel site.

DaveW
 
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I can point fingers at 4. Me, selling my original wheels and tires so quick, the place that I ordered the tires, wheels and TPMS sensors from, the tire shop that put in the Autel TPM sensors and my dealership. I'm not here looking for help figuring out where to point my finger. I'm learning that 2023 has a lot of "new" things and with the current state of affairs it's tough for people (the other 3 mentioned) to know how to help. I'm just trying to stop the bleeding!!!! lol With the knowledge gained from Dozzer and 47CP I'm going to try to go back to the tire shop tomorrow and hopefully help them help me! If that fails I'll get the Motorcraft TPM sensors WXboy mentioned.

Thanks everyone!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 03:57 PM
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Any update, did you end up having to buy oem sensors?

I moved the aftermarket wheels from my 2017 to my new 2023. The 2017 oem sensors won't work with the 23. Took it to Discount tire, they put their sensors in, still don't work.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 06:54 PM
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I had no luck so I took things into my own hands. I will tell you my '23 operates on 433mhz as stated by others in this thread, yours I "think" is 315mhz. I ended up buying an Autel MaxiTPMS TS408 and reading and learning how to use it to get everything to work. I spent about 6 hours updating and learning the tool and learning the process but I got everything working.

P.S. I do have a slightly used Autel MaxiTPMS TS408 for sale!!!!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2023 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainIPSC
I had no luck so I took things into my own hands. I will tell you my '23 operates on 433mhz as stated by others in this thread, yours I "think" is 315mhz. I ended up buying an Autel MaxiTPMS TS408 and reading and learning how to use it to get everything to work. I spent about 6 hours updating and learning the tool and learning the process but I got everything working.

P.S. I do have a slightly used Autel MaxiTPMS TS408 for sale!!!!
I'd keep it. It's nice to check out (wake up) new sensors before you put them in the tires. Newer Motorcraft
sensors do have to be under pressure, which I do by putting them inside the container for a brake
pressure bleeder. Also, unlike Autel's other scan tools, updates are free.

Mine came with 4 Autel sensors, but have not used them yet as I don't want to have aftermarket electronic parts
on anything under warrantee. If I have any TPMS issues, dealers will claim that is it (whether it is or not).
Nice to know they can be programmed to be one of several frequencies, which makes sense if they are
"universal".
 
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Old Nov 11, 2023 | 08:25 AM
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I've had good luck using dual frequency Autel TPMS sensors. But I also have an Autel programmer/tool, which cuts out the tire shop/dealer who may not know what they're doing.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainIPSC
I had no luck so I took things into my own hands. I will tell you my '23 operates on 433mhz as stated by others in this thread, yours I "think" is 315mhz. I ended up buying an Autel MaxiTPMS TS408 and reading and learning how to use it to get everything to work. I spent about 6 hours updating and learning the tool and learning the process but I got everything working.

P.S. I do have a slightly used Autel MaxiTPMS TS408 for sale!!!!
I have been working to get TPMS functional in my '23 450 and have speculated that sensors may be on the wrong frequency - Can get truck into learning mode (via pedal or hazard) but cannot get it to respond to the sensors at all. Discount put in Shrader duel freq sensors, and per my TS508 they are responding on 315mhz currently. You said yours operates on 433, but you think BK's is 315, what do you think would be making the difference? Some use 433 some use 315? Seems like all the trucks I've been looking at use the same RTM, all some codes in forscan for the module, so would think they would all be the same based on that. Just looking for any info!
 
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