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Old Oct 29, 2023 | 09:44 PM
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Technology saved us today

We just got off the interstate returning from a camping trip pulling our 15k lb 5th wheel. It was raining hard so I was driving 40-45 in a 55mph zone and we were heading to the house. We went through an intersection in a long gradual left hand curve when all of a sudden my rear end started skating like we hit ice. It happened so fast and it angled me toward the median. By the time I said "oh god" the truck had corrected itself and I was able to continue driving. Luckily there wasn't a car in the left lane because if there was we definitely would have made contact. The only thing I can think is that the intersection was oily because a lot of trucks leave a quarry close to there and cross that intersection. I've owned a camper since 2008 and this is the first time anything like this has happened. The way the nannies kicked in and corrected everything was amazing to me and we are truly grateful for this technology. I just wanted to share a story that is a testament to the engineering in these trucks. It makes me feel good knowing this is in the background when I've got my Wife, 3 kids and 2 dogs on board. I'm wondering if driving in slippery mode (or whatever it's called) might have prevented this all together? I wasn't accelerating, just maintaining speed.
 
Old Oct 29, 2023 | 11:37 PM
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Glad everyone is safe. I'm a technology nerd. I work in the field so it feels good knowing it's appreciated, especially around here where most of the time it's the opposite. 😁
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 01:53 AM
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Glad it helped in your situation. The nannies always try to kill me…
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 06:56 AM
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I had similar experiences with the Collison avoidance.
long stories, but both times it was like having a second set of eyes, letting me know things are going on.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 08:44 AM
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Yep, sometimes the tech is a blessing, other times it's a curse.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 09:00 AM
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Glad it helped you out. I think overall, they are very good.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 09:53 AM
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So trying to figure this out is consuming me. Could my Michelin XZE tires on the rear be a poor choice in wet weather? Would a more aggressive rear tire be better?
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 09:57 AM
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With your experience, I think you could have handled the load and safely made the corrections yourself but I'm glad it helped. I tend to dislike all of the tech but I do like the 360 cameras (but I also like the mirrors). The beeping, auto-braking, traction control, collision avoidance, etc. I tend to default to the off position but, in a case like yours, I'm glad it was on, it worked, and you & your passengers are safe - and you completely avoided a crash, which is a whole separate pain in the rear. Thanks for posting. When I trailer in sketchy conditions, I'll turn on the tech because of your feedback. Thanks!
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 10:13 AM
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If it had just started raining, then that is the time it will be very slippery. The rain water brings the embedded oil to the surface. At least that's what I've been told.

In this OP's situation, I wonder if the truck applied the trailer brakes to help with the correction. With that much weight in tow, I could see where the trailer would push the rear of the truck into jack knifing once the skid started.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 12:36 PM
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Is your 5th wheel a toy hauler and you have a SxS in it? I’m wonder if the tail of the trailer was to heavy and pushed you around. Also how many axels on the trailer? Start getting into those tri axle they want to go straight instead of turning.
 
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Originally Posted by Just Chilling
Is your 5th wheel a toy hauler and you have a SxS in it? I’m wonder if the tail of the trailer was to heavy and pushed you around. Also how many axels on the trailer? Start getting into those tri axle they want to go straight instead of turning.
Not a toy hauler, it's a 43' double axle 5th wheel.

I went back to that intersection just a bit ago to look around. It is concrete but it is worn very smooth from all the big trucks going through it. No grooves or texture, I can imagine it being like glass when wet. And the intersection is the start of a slow sweeping left turn in the road so I would guess I was just starting to turn the wheel when I hit this area. So is it a tire issue or just the nature of the beast? I've never had great confidence in this truck in the rain, I just figured it was due to it being a dual tire truck. The Michelin dealer is going to see what sort of credit they can give me for mine if I want to try the XDS2's. I don't know what to do, maybe I'm just overthinking which admittedly I do quite often.
 
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Originally Posted by cpobst
We just got off the interstate returning from a camping trip pulling our 15k lb 5th wheel. It was raining hard so I was driving 40-45 in a 55mph zone and we were heading to the house.
So, you're the slow poke that was creeping along in front of me?

Glad the traction control caught it and all is well.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 02:56 PM
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So, you're the slow poke that was creeping along in front of me?

Glad the traction control caught it and all is well.
Then tell me what it looked like from your perspective! I need a dash cam.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
Not a toy hauler, it's a 43' double axle 5th wheel.

I went back to that intersection just a bit ago to look around. It is concrete but it is worn very smooth from all the big trucks going through it. No grooves or texture, I can imagine it being like glass when wet. And the intersection is the start of a slow sweeping left turn in the road so I would guess I was just starting to turn the wheel when I hit this area. So is it a tire issue or just the nature of the beast? I've never had great confidence in this truck in the rain, I just figured it was due to it being a dual tire truck. The Michelin dealer is going to see what sort of credit they can give me for mine if I want to try the XDS2's. I don't know what to do, maybe I'm just overthinking which admittedly I do quite often.
I personally would lean towards the tires being the issue, as I've never had my DRW F350 ever do that to me, or my 550, except when the traction was in question due to snow/ice, never had it happen in the rain,
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 05:57 PM
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. The way the nannies kicked in and corrected everything was amazing to me and we are truly grateful for this technology.
Which nanny do you think intervened and saved the day? I don't know if this is where stability control would have kicked in, so if it was traction control, the extent the computer can do is cut power to the slipping wheels and maybe apply brakes, the braking would be useless if the surface doesn't have enough traction and the rear end goes side ways with the pin weight of the 5th'er.
 
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